Lord Travis

Difference being Harley Bennell performed at AFL level and was a match winner at the Suns before he went off the rails. He fulfilled his talent at the top level, even if only for 2-3 seasons. Elijah is nowhere near it and if it weren't for his draft pick number no one would be talking about him. The fact they're willing to pay out his contract just to keep him away from the other players speaks volumes to his negative impact on their culture. Considering we've had culture problems the past few years, we should be staying away.

Voss has said his off-field behaviour and lack of professionalism are disappointing and disruptive to the playing group. Too interested in the devils dandruff. He had potential as a draftee, but 24 years old next season and his AFL career basically has him at Tom Sparrow level impact and numbers wise. No disrespect to Tom, but you'd expect more from a pick 7 who's six years into a career. Add the off-field issues and it's a hard sell. A strong club like Geelong would take him as delisted free agent perhaps, but no club like ours should go anywhere near him.

Reckon he's a decent cheap option to build depth in our midfield. If one of Trac or Clarrys go, is be seeking him out of he was cheap. Trade demand would be low as they're not even playing him and hasn't nailed down a spot in their team for years. Equivalent to Laurie for us, but far more proven and upside IMO.

Looking forward to some new players in red and blue and a new coach next season. At least we fought out the last game. Might've seen the last of some stalwarts tonight.

Looking forward to watching some new players in red and blue next year onwards.

Insane Carlton paid him 800k a year to get him across from the Crows. He's one of the most overpaid players in history. He's 32 years of age, injury prone, and we have decent defensive depth. There's better options if needed. Sorry I meant

Will probably wind up at Geelong. They need a ruckman and his partner is from Geelong and wanting to move home from WA. They'll promise him a farm and life near a beach to surf and that'll be that.

Been our recruitment manager since 2012. That's a long time. Given the uncertainty and change at the club, I wouldn't be surprised if he looks for a new challenge or we seek out a fresh recruitment leader. He's done a great job and built the core of our premiership team. That said he's had a few misses the past few years IMO, some of them in the first round, and you have to nail those early picks. They're the easy ones, the elite talent, the game changers you build around. In years past that was the likes of Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jackson, Salem, Pickett. Jury is still out, but we've had some less successful high selections in recent years such as Laurie, Tholstrup, Jefferson that we traded up to take. The fact they haven't come on to even cementing a spot, let alone impacting games, is a big reason for our drop off IMO. Would prefer he stay, but not the end of the world if he goes at this point I think.

Never in doubt. Will be great to have another developing tall on the list. His tied and love for the club are a bonus.

Agreed. Would take a punt at a low cost if North just wanted to move him on, but wouldn't go hard. 3rd round or token pick. Could become a nifty goal scorer, but he's similar to Fritsch. Should never be allowed midfield as he's too soft. I was staggered he went so high in his draft. Pick 4 was massive overs, and it's laughable he went ahead of Windsor, Curtin, Caddy, O'Sullivan, Sanders basically all directly after him. Clear bust of that top 10 and could see it a mile off.

Can't recall such a sharp decline from a superstar, let alone two in the same team. These are the two best players the club has had in decades and they've degenerated into average midfielders. It's heartbreaking to watch.

As an assistant coach, yes please!

Win record below 30%. Had 6 seasons as Suns coach and highest finish of 12th. This was in spite of having an endless amount of first round picks and one of the most talented lists in the league - even losing those players you mentioned. He wasn't able to rebuild a club with a heap of draft concessions and additional support the AFL with zero external pressure up there in Qld. Why would we expect him to do better when he'd have less talent and support and have more pressure? I actually thought he appeared to be quite a good coach when I watched that documentary on Prime a few years back, but at the end of the day his record as a coach was poor. Ooze was an up and coming premiership winning assistant at multiple clubs. Dew is a failed senior coach and not someone you'd chase at this stage. You chase a successful senior coach or an impressive aspiring assistant such as Enright or Skipworth.

The way I see it, the backline has lots of options and will be easy to manage. Petty will take over down back when May retires. Turner seems like a superstar interceptor of the future. Long term there are other options like Adams, Howes, Derksen for tall spots too. The forward line is a mess though. I expect round 1 to look the same as we've seen this year, with JVR, Petty, Jefferson, AJ all rotating through there. Hoping Kentfield can show something here too. Long term I have no idea about any of the tall forward spots. I'd prefer JVR tried as a defender, but we have an abundance of those and a need for KPFs, so that won't happen. None of the options enthuse despite efforts to draft KPFs for years now. We might recruit another one. You can win flags without a dominant KPF, though you need a dominant and attacking midfield to do so. Round 1 next year FB: May CHB: Turner 3rd tall: Lever CHF: Van Rooyen FF: Petty 3rd tall: Jefferson/Kentfield/Derksen? Long term FB: Petty CHB: Adams 3rd tall: Turner CHF: ? FF: ? 3rd tall: ?

He's not wrong. It's right up there with Clarry a decade ago as best debut season by a Demon in my lifetime. His left foot is beautiful. His decision making and ability to get to the right places to have an impact is elite. He'll be a top 5 player in the comp once he moves into his rightful position in the guts. The club needs to build the next premiership core around him. Unbelievable we got him in red and blue. Last years draft appears to have been a super draft, and Langford is the best of the lot!

100%. He had Eddie breathing down his neck before he even transitioned into the senior coaching role. There was tension before he even took the seat, and then the pressure placed on him while the club battled through certain off-field things was enormous. He was the favourite son of the club too, so would've had additional pressure to deliver. He managed to rebuild a list to another grand final slot whilst under that external pressure. He didn't win the ultimate, but he was one kick away - just like Ross Lyon. His time in the media the past few years shows his growth and his understanding of the modern game. I'm not saying he should just walk in as our next coach, but if he got the gig then I reckon he'd be up for the task.

Great effort today. Play with that effort and game style and we'd win most weeks. Bad luck. Umpires didn't help.

Rivers had been brilliant today, but that was a shocker and it's cost us badly.

Great effort to be beating the umpires as well as the opposition. Can't question the effort today. Keep fighting Dees!

100% accurate sadly. Just whack the world title on Nick Daicos and call it a day!

Another poor umpiring call. Clear high contact not called. Thought they were hell bent on protecting the head? The AFL can get stuffed. The umpires are given an agenda pre match. These are not fairly officiated contests anymore.

How was that not deliberate out of bounds in our forward pocket near the end of the quarter? The Dogs played literally placed the ball over the like like in fear of further contact. The umpire was right in front of him and didn't call it. Petty rightly pointed at the ump and let him know. There's been a few disgracefully one sided and incorrect umpiring calls in that second quarter. I hope the club hits the AFL with a please explain.

Umpire can get stuffed. That was a mark, and if Petty didn't mark it then Melksham would've perfectly. Nothing unrealistic about that. [censored] call from a [censored] umpire.

Some senior players like Trac, Salem and Langdon struggling today. Mcvee also having a shocker and genuinely shirked contest there. Great to see Culley showing a bit. Love Rivers attitude and decision making today too.

Mcvee struggling further up the ground. He's getting in team mates way when we're bursting from contest. Great goal Fritta!