Lord Travis

Agreed. Would take a punt at a low cost if North just wanted to move him on, but wouldn't go hard. 3rd round or token pick. Could become a nifty goal scorer, but he's similar to Fritsch. Should never be allowed midfield as he's too soft. I was staggered he went so high in his draft. Pick 4 was massive overs, and it's laughable he went ahead of Windsor, Curtin, Caddy, O'Sullivan, Sanders basically all directly after him. Clear bust of that top 10 and could see it a mile off.

Can't recall such a sharp decline from a superstar, let alone two in the same team. These are the two best players the club has had in decades and they've degenerated into average midfielders. It's heartbreaking to watch.

As an assistant coach, yes please!

Win record below 30%. Had 6 seasons as Suns coach and highest finish of 12th. This was in spite of having an endless amount of first round picks and one of the most talented lists in the league - even losing those players you mentioned. He wasn't able to rebuild a club with a heap of draft concessions and additional support the AFL with zero external pressure up there in Qld. Why would we expect him to do better when he'd have less talent and support and have more pressure? I actually thought he appeared to be quite a good coach when I watched that documentary on Prime a few years back, but at the end of the day his record as a coach was poor. Ooze was an up and coming premiership winning assistant at multiple clubs. Dew is a failed senior coach and not someone you'd chase at this stage. You chase a successful senior coach or an impressive aspiring assistant such as Enright or Skipworth.

The way I see it, the backline has lots of options and will be easy to manage. Petty will take over down back when May retires. Turner seems like a superstar interceptor of the future. Long term there are other options like Adams, Howes, Derksen for tall spots too. The forward line is a mess though. I expect round 1 to look the same as we've seen this year, with JVR, Petty, Jefferson, AJ all rotating through there. Hoping Kentfield can show something here too. Long term I have no idea about any of the tall forward spots. I'd prefer JVR tried as a defender, but we have an abundance of those and a need for KPFs, so that won't happen. None of the options enthuse despite efforts to draft KPFs for years now. We might recruit another one. You can win flags without a dominant KPF, though you need a dominant and attacking midfield to do so. Round 1 next year FB: May CHB: Turner 3rd tall: Lever CHF: Van Rooyen FF: Petty 3rd tall: Jefferson/Kentfield/Derksen? Long term FB: Petty CHB: Adams 3rd tall: Turner CHF: ? FF: ? 3rd tall: ?

He's not wrong. It's right up there with Clarry a decade ago as best debut season by a Demon in my lifetime. His left foot is beautiful. His decision making and ability to get to the right places to have an impact is elite. He'll be a top 5 player in the comp once he moves into his rightful position in the guts. The club needs to build the next premiership core around him. Unbelievable we got him in red and blue. Last years draft appears to have been a super draft, and Langford is the best of the lot!

100%. He had Eddie breathing down his neck before he even transitioned into the senior coaching role. There was tension before he even took the seat, and then the pressure placed on him while the club battled through certain off-field things was enormous. He was the favourite son of the club too, so would've had additional pressure to deliver. He managed to rebuild a list to another grand final slot whilst under that external pressure. He didn't win the ultimate, but he was one kick away - just like Ross Lyon. His time in the media the past few years shows his growth and his understanding of the modern game. I'm not saying he should just walk in as our next coach, but if he got the gig then I reckon he'd be up for the task.

Great effort today. Play with that effort and game style and we'd win most weeks. Bad luck. Umpires didn't help.

Rivers had been brilliant today, but that was a shocker and it's cost us badly.

Great effort to be beating the umpires as well as the opposition. Can't question the effort today. Keep fighting Dees!

100% accurate sadly. Just whack the world title on Nick Daicos and call it a day!

Another poor umpiring call. Clear high contact not called. Thought they were hell bent on protecting the head? The AFL can get stuffed. The umpires are given an agenda pre match. These are not fairly officiated contests anymore.

How was that not deliberate out of bounds in our forward pocket near the end of the quarter? The Dogs played literally placed the ball over the like like in fear of further contact. The umpire was right in front of him and didn't call it. Petty rightly pointed at the ump and let him know. There's been a few disgracefully one sided and incorrect umpiring calls in that second quarter. I hope the club hits the AFL with a please explain.

Umpire can get stuffed. That was a mark, and if Petty didn't mark it then Melksham would've perfectly. Nothing unrealistic about that. [censored] call from a [censored] umpire.

Some senior players like Trac, Salem and Langdon struggling today. Mcvee also having a shocker and genuinely shirked contest there. Great to see Culley showing a bit. Love Rivers attitude and decision making today too.

Mcvee struggling further up the ground. He's getting in team mates way when we're bursting from contest. Great goal Fritta!

Was Simpson asked in 360 after Longmire? What was his response like? Longmire was cagey and avoidant. Buckley was positive about the club and was keen.

Buckley clearly has the desire for it, but I'm unsure if Longmire does. Buckley became a coach young, and appears to have grown a lot since. His analysis and commentary on the game is the best in the business. He gets the modern game and has a great football mind. Longmire has a better coaching career, winning a premiership and making four other grand finals. He'd be number one choice if we want an experienced coach to set standards, followed by Buckley. For whatever reason, I don't rate Simpson as highly as though two. If we want an up and coming assistant, Corey Enright and Ash Hansen are the ones I've heard are rated extremely highly and are defined to be senior coaches. Obviously we'd go through a selection process, but I'd hope those two were part of that and strong contenders. I'm unsure what the right path is, but with how rudderless our club is from a leadership perspective, an experienced coach might be required. Whoever it is, they have a decent playing list to build on, and we could bounce quickly in the next two seasons, even if we lose a few senior core players and go the youth path.

Big flop. He wouldn't be in our top 10 players on form, and we're legit rubbish at the moment. He wasn't worth what we would've paid for him on previous All Aus form. Thank God that trade didn't work out and we wound up with Langford and Lindsey instead!

Best of luck to Jai this week. Always nice to see a lifelong Demon supporter pull on the red and blue! Pathetic post. Pull your head in you pelican.

Game styles are dictated by the rules. The AFL have been tweaking the rules over the past 5-10 years to encourage fast and high scoring play. As a result, coaches have had a lot of options taken away from them, and have had to shift their game style and recruit accordingly. Numerous coaches in interviews over the years have spoken about how the 6-6-6 rule disarms them. For young teams, it has made defending increasingly harder and led to bigger blow outs. Deliberate out of bounds, deliberate behinds, stand rule etc are all rules that disarm them and make defending harder. The new kick-out rules were designed to get the ball further into play, quicker, and make defending harder. Good teams often concede on kick-ins and try to win it back at half back these days - think teams like Geelong, Brisbane, Collingwood that all intercept and then rebound with a rocket through a combo of foot speed and efficient kicking. As a result of the more recent rules changes, n the past 3-4 years coaches have abandoned contested styles and moved to scoring more from rebound, hence quick ball movement. We are trending the right way and are actually one of the fastest ball moving teams this season. Our problem is while the players move the ball quickly, they don't structure properly and don't have the foot skills to hit harder kicks that poor structure causes. Bombing it quickly is moving quickly, but not effectively. When we've played well this year, it's looked slick and we've hit Melksham, Fritsch, and others on a lead. When we don't play well and fold under pressure, it's quick mindless bombs to nothing, and we get torched on the rebound. Our list needs a revamp, as the core is ageing and was built through the Roos era to be contested and defensive, not focused on skill and offense. We've started that revamp with some talented kids such as Kozzie, Langford, Lindsey, Windsor, McVee etc, but we're a way off the best teams to be consistently competitive due to the age and skill profile of our list. IMO it's more of a personnel issue than a game style issue at present.

Outside Coleman, they're all battlers who can't get a game or past it. What's the story with Keidean Coleman? I know he's been injured. Is he in VFL due to returning from injury or has he fallen out of favor? He's a game changer, but doubt he's available.

I agree the threats to Goodwins safety are not acceptable and horrifying. That shouldn't have been the only point of the message to members though. Surely speak to what's gone wrong and what's being done to put us on the right path again. The email feels like it was knocked up but ChatGPT, but he added a condition to the prompt that said "remove any accountability or actions and keep it vague".

Game's broken.

The 'we're back in finals' brochures the club prematurely sent out still haunt me