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Choke... a lot of teams like/ prefer top have some experience and maturity out there in the middle. Kids cant do it alone ( theres a lesson learnt ) and yet Carlton have cut him loose at 28. . I dont think Mouse rates him.

Strange at times the things we argue about here...and fortifying the things we can agree on

2015 is a season afresh. Let Robbie's legacy stand as sentry til the new year when others can hopefully take up that mantle.

The absolute irony of Brock Mclean is that he makes judgements and called the club's culture poisonous etc and all he had to do was look in the mirror. He wan't alone either.

Ash....are you a parent ? If you are, what's you view , as one, towards the actions and seemingly spellbound co-operation that the players parent are affording the club. I ask not as entrapment but with genuine interest because I can't ( as a parent of a 20yo Boy ) understand it for a second.

Ash...and please don't take this personally. but your club is already bankrupt, morally so As long as Hird and Little represent the two sides to the overseeing of football at the EFC you will be ostracised from those that think what was, and continues to be, abhorrent. That we might want to stick our collective size 10's into you lot is not surprising given the treatment over the years to our club at times by your clubs management etc. Give, and you better be prepared to take. That aside I ask, seriously, as an Essendon supporter ( and I presume Member ? ) will you be attending the next AGM and along with others with a better regard for whats right , incorrupt and scrupulous be demanding the instant removal of Hird and the purging of the current board ? You seem a decent bloke, where does decency stand at Essendon ?

ASADA may call on Shane Charter and Nima Alavi at AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal"CONVICTED drug trafficker Shane Charter and compound pharmacist Nima Alavi will likely be asked to give evidence in person at any AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal hearing of charges against current and former Essendon players."

good idea

Yeah....Carlton is SOooooooooo ethical

Brock liked to point fingers at others. Brock outed himself as a true Blue and dissed us. Ppl want to offer clemency.........please ....lol

He ought to do very well indeed then !!!

Tank you very much . Enjoy your retirement... Guess thats why they call them the Blues

Not sure anyone's saying much else other than he needs to 'lift' his game. He'll soon have lots of competition for his spot...that being ...just a name on the big list

This is one aspect I really dont get. Why on earth give the club get out of jail cards when your own kids are the lab-rats.. I mean ffs. Grow some parents

* like comment detest the idea

doubt it...theyve got it locked up Im sure.

funny thing is that the club could give them clarity.... " We injected you with ....... "

Yep this bloke sure knows a lot about Luhrmann...!!!!!! Fukk all about this....but lots about Baz !!

Yes, let them do the hard yards

I think Burgan's busy with head down stuck into some Camus trying to get a handle on some of Harry's eclectic jargon !!

probably bleeds red and.....uhhh ......... well thats close enough surely

Id be if surprised if Roos himself would want his son under him.

yes as simple as that, who'd have thought

Ash...heres the thing that grates on most; it's the adoption of the 'victim' stance and that ASADA are the big bad meanies. They're not. They are the ones charged with policing the adherence to the code locally . Someone steps out of line, or across it they will be brought to task. Other athletes in other sports seemed to be in NO confusion as to what's allowed etc but supposedly Footballers are special ? These same said footballers who undergo hours upon hours of information and awareness regarding their responsibilities. The same footballers who invariably grew up in an age of Info tech...These same footballers who are playing dumb ?? There are the Drugs specifically mentioned on the Prohibitive List ( updated regularly ) and those that automatically fall under their S.O categories. whereby any drug not approved for human use automatically is covered by the S.O Please , they are not the VICTIMS as is the want of your club ( irony to the nth) or the AFLPA would have them be, they are transgressors. The Victims would in essence be the other athletes , those that do the right thing and observe the rules , should they seemingly be treated differently by happenstance if the Footballers get any leniency....any !! Whatever 'happens' to Essendon was actually brought upon the club itself, by ...itself. I think you'll find most people aren't cheerleaders for ASADA per se they are cheerleaders for Fairness and equal treatment.. ASADA is merely the messenger. This cant be seen as some sort of aberration within an otherwise safe and above-board practice. it was a long drawn out systemic approach to rorting. Then to make matters worse the club , especially its icons , take the stance of 'oh woe is us". How dare anyone seek to call us to account. Even now the club doesnt get it ( or maybe it DOES ) by continuing to counsel and advise the players and basically co-opt them further by paying and overseeing their 'defense". The players can only be stupid to still provide themselves as cannon fodder in all of this. The only ones I have the slightest semblance of sympathy for are the likes of yourself, but even that ends if you can't see what's been wrong in it's entirety. The Club (yours ) and Specifically Hird were reminded of the legalities and banned use of various peptides by the AFL. They choose to be above all of that and still choose to concoct a ridiculous stance against being found out. I truly hope Hird rots somewhere and is never allowed near a sporting venue , let alone organisation ever again. If the players can't wake up to the continued ruse then they are their own worst enemies.

bait and switch......clever