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definitely outside the norm...but as to how much intelligent thought went into those selections

I'v actually suggested elsewhere that I have a gut feeling we may we'll do something a bit different . , a little unexpected, something that may raise eyebrows., but in reality who knows. The 'reading" i had of the club during the trade period was it was very into capitalising on its picks with a trade.. I , like your good self have no real idea ( nor will the majority of the football world for a year or two ) whether the phantom orders reflect the real ability of these kids once they enter the 'grown ups' system. I dont know how the club is going about the list, Convention may well overlap popularity as well as pragmatism and see us utter "Brayshaw" come pick 2. After that, who knows. Lever by all accounts has garnered much interest from the club but is that simply diligence if we were picking at 8-12 ? or irrespective ? We'll know soon. Was the club expecting that both Petracca and Brayshaw would be up for grabs? It would have to be a scenario they have considered. Are we looking at one mid now one later type thinking ? Personally it might happen as next years draft is supposedly heavier with mids than this years and lighter on taller prospects. Has the club thought to enact a more holistic approach and view the likely scenario of who we can add ( and subtract ) over the next 2 EOS's after this one ? Nothing done now is ALL of the solution , is only a component. We now know pretty much who/what the footy dept is for next 5 years so are we building steadily bit by bit. I have no idea...I;ll happily admit it.I will only be able to tell as we see it unfold. Sometimes 1+1 does simply =2, but what 2 and 3 = is anyones guess really. Whatever transpires I think the heads on the selection shoulders are wiser now. Never infallible though

Howe will have to knuckle down, going to be plenty nipping at his heels. I do see him a a forward flanker mainly but he hasnt quite got all the cards required ( yet, or maybe....we'll see )

MAYBE ...... c'mon...who hasn't been wondering ??

i'm going to the notion the club was supposedly interested ( according to some knowledge here on the boards ) in taking him a little later . So he may not have figured in the thinking of 2 or 3 especially if either had been traded. put the snide away

I dont think lever was ever in teh minds of the club as a #2 or #3 but a latter single digit pick

Thats not so daft really is it. its unlikely ( said this elsewhere ) that either would be expected to impact hugely in 2015...nor anyone drafted by Roos for that matter. Sure they'll get some air time but will be educational more than anything else. So Whoever is picked wont become mainstream til likely '16.....by which time youve had a chance to go shopping again for an immediate impact player ....from the GW Store !! If youre building a team you dont do it all in one fell swoop.; well highly unlikely. They may end up doing what many perceive the obvious...Petracca and Brayshaw ...I just dont necessarily see it as an absolute lock . Will be interesting

funny how 190-192 was the dreaded height.. Now its THE "Prototype" for the utility mid..

wouldnt mind possibly looking at Panos. If he isnt picked maybe a cheap find as a rookie ?

?? Just my view would be he's possibly worth a punt but not worth using up any trade currency for. he's a 'freebie"

a different path to the same sentiment All these experts seem to evaluate the players with glaring fallacy

lesson here....The "experts" are actually seldom on the money. They often craftily rewrite a little bit of history here and there to justify where the world differed from their expectations. I still expect the club to something "different" and to do it to suit US, not anyone else or their thinkings. Cast aside the scrawny ones who's going to be able to help us and be strong bodies with enormous appetite for the game. So if we think in terns of the players we have that ought to either solidify their games or step it up and form a framework of a decent midfield what do we require to bolster this, compliment it, not replace it. and it'll all probably revolve around who actually goes at 1

Im wondering if Lyons wasnt the one we had in mind. Hes saying put now so might change what we do ...to psd or not to psd

A well put together take on it all.

we've just been really bad......for a really long time

Ive just got this sneaky gut feeling that the club is going to do something a little left field. it will possibly and hopefully probably all make sense in a year or two but might make a few look twice at the moment. Our midfield isnt too crash hot , by a distance , but even selecting two guns in this years draft wont solve next years problems. Roos isnt a big fan on playing the noobies too early, so dont expect to see that much of either #2 or #3 in 15. So by the time they start kicking along say 1-2 years hence we will have already had a chance to go back to the store and "buy" something ready to go. The club has already flagged a GO HARD stance come next years trade etc. I also think a couple of blokes got a bit of a reprieve this eos and are still no certs going forward. A few are notably very tall, but havent cemented a spot . Whilst theres an obvious requirement to bolster the list for next year I think Roos and Co might take a longer view to this than many of us here. In 15 I expect bigger things from Michie , Riley, Salem and who knows maybe the Greek will kick it up a gear. I also think ( just me maybe ) that Garlett hasnt been brought in so much as that sneaky fwd ( I think JKH will be that player in 15 ) but to build his tank and use him through the middle as a bit of a live wire, creative type. It would at first glance appear that picks 2 and 3 are pretty straight forward I cant help but feel that these may well raise an eyebrow or two, probably not both....but one.

Sorry, not quite sure.... are you saying Toump was taken as a mid...but wont make the grade as a mid ? just asking , because thats a very interesting observation

THE World Anti-Doping Agency has issued a stinging rebuke of ASADA and the Australian government, declaring they alone were responsible for the inordinate delays in the investigation that led to 12 past and present Cronulla players receiving backdated suspensions over the NRL supplement scandal. WADA also made it clear it was not happy with the process that led to the players being offered 12-month bans, but had elected not to appeal because to do so would not advance the fight against doping in any meaningful way. (source..THE AUSTRALIAN Oct 1)

he's pretty bloody good off the boot... that cant be bad !! How's his back these day ??

If that was the VERY best outcome why not ? All these players get chased every bloody year and the gems either appear often later or on the 'market shelf" If the best outcome of the best talent was a tall and a mid.. yep.

what about a ** ?? ** looming additions to the midfield at end of season 2015 ? Rome wasnt built in a day. We wont solve all our deficiencies in one , even two , trade drafts . As i recall our greatest downfall this year ( apart from tiring ) was there was no confidence to kick it forward and it seemed to come hurtling back at great knotts due to no quality forward line might make the mids stand taller and go harder. Can be very soul destroying to see all your handiwork come unglued all the time. Tend to agree with the " draft best talent , trade for need" outlook

I thought there were whispers that the club WAS possibly considering two metre Peter ?? Brayshaw and McCartin or Brayshaw and Wright...fine by me. if we do go 2MP then some others already at the club might be on borrowed time ( if not already )

Tread lightly Jack ...