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I, like your goodself...and many others know where it should go... however we probably know where it will probably go. Look at the narrative.... who's running it. It's the AFL... not about right or wrong. AFL cant walk and talk ...sadly..

Succint...and correct .

All rather incestuous in that regard isnt it 😉

An interesting question. There are vast differences in motive and techniques.. but at a distance some might ask. Basicly Viney simply plays very hard. He doesn't play vindictively. Maynard looks and waits for opportunities to disguise wayward play for hits.

exactly why is that smart ?? Only dumbo Raply seems to think such. Would Carlton..Collingwood roll over...like f they will

Bop Bop....Bopping the Blues..... ( a little long...perhaps get a red, a beer or a panadol.... ) There's an old adage; If it aint broke ...don't fix it. Agruably conversely if it is BROKEN....you amy well want to FIX it !! Our predicament is we enter all games currently as a game of two halves... Not quarters per se....but a Front Half and a back half. Our Defence work's pretty good most of the time and certainly isn't the prime concern. Our front half is....let's be polite....broken. It bumbled along quite ok until recently whilst we had Petty , who finally found his straps and it started working. Alas poor Petty...we knew him well.. Enter stage left.... Melksham. A more than handy replacement as it turned out.....and then....well.... Since then...quite frankly it's a shambles. No coherence, no connect. Now there's a word..and indeed the crux of the dilemma ( imho )...CONNECTION. From the back half to the front hald there is bugger all. And that's where it all comes apart. Strangley you win games by scoring. Defending is good but that as such doesn't go up on the scoreboard. What to do ?? Now some might have a good chuckle ( or just a chuck ) at what follows. We move the magnets. A role that Milky played was tobe the link between the two halves...as it came out of the half back through the wing or ,l occasionally the guts he was often there to mark and keep the bal lgoing to a forward...and a forward in a good scoring position ( very VERY important ) Back in the day this was pretty much what Tommy Mac would also do...Float fairly high as a HF and collect and deliver. This is where we fall down. We need that High Half Forward type todraw the ball and in turn spot up a goal kicker Where oh where tofind such a beast. Strangley enough he's right in front of us..A co-member of the 'failed' forward experiment. None other than Maxxy Max. If he wasnt a ruck an independent unbiased observer might be mistaken for thinking he'd make an excellent CHF ( but not too close to goal ) In fact if we take the Dee-Goggles off for a tic and watch, he actually does this role anyway.. He slots in somewhere on that half forward line...and marks. Thats exactly what you want roaming along that territory...someone who 1) Knows where to be 2) Can take a mark ( oftern in a pack ) 3) has some idea what to do with it afterwards. Indeed if close enough have a crack....and hes been kinownto slot a few in a final...Handy !! But ....but....but........ But what ?? You can't take Max out of the ruck...... Why Not ???... if only we had someone who could take that Role....if only we had..... oh wait !!! The bleedingly obvious solution is of course Grundy.... yeah... I know...only an AA Ruck...in pretty good nick ... That's , imho , what you do..Let Brodie ruck most of the ground . If the ball falls forward either Tommy or Max can take it whatever seems a better idea a that ( particular) moment Forward structure.. the previously mentioned hot zone. Thats gunna be Tommy's new home for the most part. He doesnt have to roamnearly as far as is HF... He knows how to mark, knows how to kick. The other forwards.. let Frita off the leash..let him roam.. Cancel Kozzi's pilot licence...ground him... intruct to lead and crumb...and be Johnny on the spot in the forward arc creatinig mayhem..He IS very good at that. He needs a reset, a refocssing. We need the ball to come back towards the corridor going forward. We need someone to direct,organise thiings a bit... Someone who CAN NOT be disregarded..someone who's leads and presence MUST be heeded...Again this is MAX ...burn him at your peril. Keep the entries more central... The reporting of some 'coaching' ( and that must be a very loose interpretation) of 'clump" techniques in the pocket ....I mean wtf !! someone has absolutley NFI if thats the case. Have we become so 'defensive' orientatated that we have forgotten how to attack...to play forward... i.e be brave enough to score ?? A caveat to all of this is not to crowd each other ...divide the defenders. This idea of british bulldog forward footy...give it away...it's rubbish. ( and more the point well worked out rubbish now ) It will be hard to keep Trac forward now I guess.. But we need to find someone(s) with flair who can rotate through the middle and let Christian be dangerous Do you entertain bringing Woey back and have some limited time in the guts as well as forward ... in a fashion that's the second tier element to the problem...but any number of possibilities there. The main one...the BIG FIX is to rejig the forward game....and it really wouldn't take that much. Thery're all kinda there...thereabouts... just the set up is WRONG Let Grundy do what he is very capable of doing...and release the Max The pairing in a fashion of Max and Brodie is , for mine...still full of potential..... just not how it's been done to date. We have nothing to lose.. If we keep repeating what hasnt worked....well guess what !!! likelihood of happening.... nada thanks for humouring me by reading.....that's my say... now off you all go to snicker...sneeze...guffaw... Go Dees

I'm calmer.... ( just dont like to waste red 😉 ) No less concern or greater expectations though ...

Nqr... Before the bounce Dees 1.88 Pies 1.92

That infers we have mongrel. Yet to see it

Should be the other way round !!!

Of course there was intent.. That's how he rolls. Not the first dog act by this piece of [censored]...nor likely his last. Hes an opportunistic sniper. Has been for a long while. That's the nature of his id. Compounding the felony is it is acknowledged, accepted and no doubt encouraged by his coach.( the media hounds know it too ) I pointed this our to a Filth brother in law ( coincidenrly an ex filth player ).who immediately retorted.. its a just footy... your May is no better !! Lucky it was a family bday evening ... i didnt particularly care for the remark. . My suggestion to him that that wasn't just footy but the dog act of a [censored] drew derision. I further iterated 'we both know where the line exists... we both have crossed it... i only in retaliation... if that was you.. you wouldn't be getting up !!" .. sometimes he doesn't know how to take me.. but he knows i dont bluff. And they wonder why we despise Collingwood. I feel terrible for Gus. He plays a hard but fair game, as all should. Hope he continues to get the support he requires and deserves. He deserves a far less inglorious way to finish up. You're a champion Gus. All the best . There is more than footy... but i know you love it.

Maybe "Shoulda tried harder... shoulda gone harder" 🤷🤷

Not so simple me thinks. 2 aspects.. He's now fit The market is very different. As they say....strike while the iron is hot.

I should imagine if the Bun plays...he's playing as a ruck. We actually go ok with him rucking. Of the 2 Max is the more versatile ( imo ) What we know is if we do the same...result's the same. Need to do something a bit lateral.... or it's over before it starts.

I can see it can .. Not all of Maxs marks are from long distance hail marys. It might be splitting hairs of a fashion.. but id be happy enough to see kicks to a contesr.. Max and 1/2 others from say 40/45 away as the % suggests he'll get it. If the smalls ars instructed to observe these incursions and be sure to be able to crumb or take the quick hand ball we can actually weaponise what has been our short coming. Imho.. draw imaginary lines from the goalpost to respective points of the centre square.. now draw a line 40 m out from goal.line. that is THE target drop zone for lower-eyed kicks. In course of play whoever is best positioned should take the pass. The other two taller to spreas.. dilute the defenders. If they spread not to far wide of the target zone the opposition doesn't dare not guard them.. Its not rocket science We deliberately congest play up forward.. its not clever footy

You want to win this ?? Time to get reinventive. As someone suggested elsewhere... it's break glass time. We HAVE to discard, amputate the cancer if any hope to survive let alone win is desired. I suggested earlier a little robbing of Peter to pay Paul.... well.... Grundy in. He does most of the Rucking....and around ground stuff . Tommy out of the square... Max as a floating CHF type. Note... he does NOT need to be true KPF...just needs to do what he is very capable of doing.....MARKING. If he doesn't then our smaller fwds must crumb. Kozzi...I'm looking at you... put the pilots licence away and shark packs...esp around Max. Three blokes who can mark a ball.. Max, Tommy and Fritta.. just dont get in each others way.. dont even have to lead... what you MUST do is separate their defence and open.up space for others to run.into/through. For the purposes of the exercise...pockets DO NOT exist ... you only go there if indeed the ball does and you're defending your fwd space. They are never a means to an end.. They only looked ok when you had the likes of Milky bending balls off of either foot.. Hes not there...lets not do it.. Lower the eyes ....straighten up... NO BOMBING. If you do not do this we will not win. We need to give ourselves better % shots on goal. It's that simple.

I agree.. we have to think very left field now ...imo. we're forced to. Grundy actually is a very effective ruck. Max is a very good mark ( pack grabs )

In fairness to Old ... what is the most significant feature/skill/ attribute of a GENUINE kpf ?? Id put as #1 .. the ability to kick multiple goals ...every game. 2 goals and we win. KPF wins the day ...no ????

Nailed it. The problem is we are [censored] bringing the ball in.. thats why we have so many repeat entries. If we were any good we would actually have less entries recorded as we would score better. We dont and that stat highlights it if nothing else. We play a very nonsensical crowded game up front. We push, scramble, spin repeat and essentially hope for the best beause of pressure applied. Its stopped being effective now. Can it be again .. i doubt it with who's available. Happy to be wrong. Carlton are much better in forward 50 craft. May and Lever will have to be at their best.

Whilst i understand the notion we still have to pay someone(s). I dont see this aspect as the driving feature of the value of any trade. That two clubs are already shopping suggests his value ( not to us per se ) but the market is higher. We ought to realise that...and realise that value. Imho...disregard how he came to us, it's his value leaving to another. I do wish him well. He bought in. It didn't work. We all move on. Atm... he's worth more to other clubs than some might suspecr. Red is onto this.

Shoulda..... coulda...... didn't I was very upbeat and confident against the Filth. Ostensibly we have the "game" to do so. We still do. What we dont have is the finish. We're figuratively getting that horse to water..... but.... Strangely enough the scoreboard only ever reflects the finish and not the rest of the work. I dont see how we win now. I see how we compete. I see how in the game-general we'll play better. I dont see us presently capable of finishing off all the hard yards with a winning score. We should be able to but we don't. The FD has its work cut out. We'll need to rob Peter to pay Paul, butbwill that be enough Carlton smell blood...they should... we're haemorrhaging.

Why dont you stfu with the drama queen bs eh. Some of us arentvas twinkly eyed as you...then suck it up princess. Our forward line and forward craft are but non existent presently. Those that were shoring it up are unavailable...but thats justba nithing to you apparently. Not all would agree. Others weve come to expect to chime in seem way off form. ... We lost...because we choked Get that in your head. Other teams are slotting them.... we miss the barn. It is actually a concern... even during h/a games but here we are facing another inglorious exit.... because we dont have a functioning fwd group. Im hoping Goody and Co can pull a few rabbits out. That would be good. Many are struggling to see how. As previous efforts have been less than successful. But by all means.....just a couple of goals We had ample opportunity.... we struggle currently to convert. We dont have Petty..We dont have Milky, we wont have up and down Roo boy either. Whats your answer ??

I thought we had the other one...🥴 🤔Hope you're better at calling than me 🤣🤣🤣

Theyre not "tweaks"... it's a rebuild. Need to manufacture a silk purse from... 🤔🤔🤷🤷

I want steak knives too. Port and Swans can do better ;)