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Thankyou.. summed up succinctly.

John , is it fair to say there were Dominators ( plural ) that day. Yes he got all jiggy jiggy and found his mojo. No question. He wasn't alone nor could he have won the game alone. He became very much participant in the uplifting synergy ,once that invisible switch flicked in the 3rd. Im sure any of us could point to a dozen instances in that game where any of a half dozen players did 'something' that turned that game. Christian will always be remembered and revered as part of that. Rightly so. And we come to today, all but 4 years hence , and its a different picture. Now I will preface this as MY opinion. And I happily own it. CP5 is not that player any more. I fully understand how that has occurred. It takes guts to persevere through injury and get back out there and put the body back.on the line again. Im not sure if anyone is trying to dismiss or dilute that. Would be foolhardy and deceitful to do so really but even so there is to many an observer what appears a lowered ceiling to his game. Going forward, whether its our ( supporters ) expectations... or more poignantly the club's view as to the where and what of that which we might reasonably expect to be his 'game' in subsequent seasons it ( possible trade ) can only be garnered , indeed enacted , upon what IS now. Not what was. In the great scheme of things Tracc is just a player. We need dozens of them each year, to wear the colours and march on. These cgange from year to year but the one constant you will want is that they all march to the same song. I just get the distinct impression ( ref.. my opinion ) that he no longer hears that song . I am truly ambivalent about Tracc. If King and Co want him, well it's THEIR call. If Tracc wants away, thats HIS call. Do I think we'd get better team value trading or keeping ? I really don't know. I only know I'd rather someone with 80% of Traccs ability playing at 100% for us.. than Tracc playing 80% for us. Mathematically the same but the attitude and effect is vastly different. I always revert back to referencing a 'champion team' over champions. I'll not question nor dilute what he has done. 2026 and beyond is about what he can , indeed will, do. And especially for US. The facts...are simply that was then, this is now. His value is ALL tomorrow.

I dare say you're missing the nuance here. Mihocek IS a free agent. Yes. But you CAN actually make him part of a trade. It all goes to the ramifications of compensations which is I believe what DS was alluding to. The trade game has it little foibles. More than one way to skin the cat as they say.

Was he ?? Never saw that in him. He had waxing confidence.... that soon petered out. Strangely Roo does have it... but possibly its a stronger suit than 'nouse' My overview thoughts about us in the coming immediate seasons are about about transition and growth. In 3 or 4 years the team will be quite different. We need some players to hold down roles whilst others play into them. Thats how I view Brody. If he can facilitate the forwards getting their act together over 2/3 or so years then I think he's worth the shot. It's footy, nothing is certain. I have a suspicion King may have ticked the box here. Be interesting to see how this plays.

There were a few more blokes than #5 that day. #10 says hello. Im not thinking Christian has quite made that matyr bar just yet. But you seem to know better than all. Shade.. mate , you've cornered that business.

Yes... very likely to be one of those "super deal" thingies 😉 Also suggests it won't happen quickly.... if at all.

GC have proven willing to trade 'fair' in the past. Adelaide... not so much. Best for all to remember... circus week isn't about absolutes... it's about best fit for needs. Not everyone will agree but you can only make what you have the materials for. Often that Pie in the Sky won't be on the menu. Make the best of your hand ( try not to get fleeced )... move on. It's invariably about trading "might-be's" . No player comes with a guarantee. It's much more akin to a krap shoot than scrabble. What do we need ? Cap space ? $$$ off books etc. Particular role players ..etc etc. You go shopping at the bazaar. You haggle, you trade ( or not ) ... you come home and move on. Tracc is a hard one because he IS like that die.. 6 ppl are going to see 6 different values. Another complexity is going forward he's just as likely to be apples and oranges depending upon where he's at. Almost a sliding door scenario. Much is made of what he 'might' be again. That's a fair call but so is realising at Melbourne he might stagnate ( some say he has already ). If the club IS of a mind to be open to trade then you can only do so with what IS at the buffet table, not necessarily what you Prefer. I.e make the best fist of what's on offer... or walk away. Of course the overlaying context... what does Tracc want to do. Must admit I could see him enjoying brisvegas... more so than Adelaide... not thinking he's the pie-floater type. Going to be a fun circus 🎪 get your seat , 🍿🥤 🤡🥳🤡

There's actually a 'Easter egg' in this. Tassie could be up tomorrow...and yet one stumbling block in front of another.. my , my 🤔🤔

We invented it 😉

I reckon Bill will find a bit of interest. He's far more Meat and 3 veg than anything Cordon Bleu.. but he's quite serviceable. Never really been given a block of games to incubate at the higher level,other clubs with needs might consider him. But as to Brody.. if you think Bill is a suitable choice for the right team I dont quite see how Mihocek ( Pies leading goal kicker btw .... they got to the prelims.. well they did ) can't be serviceable to us. Add 30 goals to our year and it would look a bit more appealing ???

Straight to the Pool Room !!!

Junk quiz.. who did May (FB) line up on v Filth 🤔 😉

I think.some are missing a much better picture. We're not winning a flag in 26.. ( highly doubtful anyway ) . 27 might nudge finals a bit. We need to rebuild. As such you need 'scaffolding' ... need to help facilitate the progress of others. They might already be on board... might be coming 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ A player like Mihocek needs respect by opponents defence. This provides opportunities for developing forwards. Mihocek isn't the solution.. he ( or someone ) is part of the framework to developing it.

Ahh.. but when he propped pivoted and proceeded to then bounce with other hand you "understood" ... there....was 'greatness' . Must have played with opponents heads 😆 I know I'm not alone... but the sheer spectacle of watching Robbie was enough to bring a smile to one's face.

🤔🤔 Are Elders coming on as a new sponsor too ??

McRae blinked. Ppl not seeing a bigger picture here.

Be grateful.... unscathed 😉

I concur.. Moore or less

Deserves more 👏 👏👏 😆😆😆😆😆

Oooh.. Ooh... Someone said the quiet bit loud !!!

Well said Macdonald ...

Or not 🤔🤷‍♂️🤔😆

He might be starting Monday.... just sayin' 🤔🙄

He's not ( employed by us ) that was a termination payout. Thereafter the time is his, the money is his.