beelzebub

To blame it on the PF is a bit like saying its the bullet from a firing squad that ended the prisoners life. It's really about the journey to that point and in our case how we managed to be a band of dead men walking even before the first bounce that day. So in some ways... a coach saying they didnt take anything away from that game is I suppose correct. What is there to learn from a thrashing like that...other than one simple thing. Don't get yourself into that position. Here's that 'by design" issue again. We got into that mess all by ourselves really. We plotted the course to that game...but we just weren't really paying attention to all the metrics. In many ways West Coast didnt win that game as we absolutely LOST it...before the bounce. We still lose much of our football by the very way we go about things. These are all by direction. Nothing really happens by chance The players don't just rock up on the day and ad-lib ,though any casual , or even we seasoned ones, may be forgiven for thinking they do just that. No, they are enacting a series of instructions. They're just not good ones, though they are goodwins !!

an interesting hypothesis..actually it is. I reckon though had we made the GF...it might have been 1988 all over again

The PF was the straw that broke the demon's back Thats the significance of the PF. That so many players went under the knife is imho directly a result of many being ridden into the ground by a playing style that simply cant be done for 100 mins. we were worn out by that game....literally (that is to say ...by that game we were worn out...fried )

@praha Nothing is a quick fix at Melbourne.

Lol Mate the context of the Op was we'd beaten f all in the top 8 h/a simples We hadnt We all got very giddy and blousey winninf a few on the trot when Sim9n said engage hyperdrive. ..until we died Reality sucks doesnt it

Yummy yummy Fruit salad Seriously Pen St D , what's your out for this year Think carefully

Michael rowed the boat ashore...

I give up They are intent on bastardising what's left of our game Shoot Gil, shock Hocking..slash the nuts of anyone that comes close to the game THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. ..[censored] OFF

Not as cryptic as some might suppose

We haven't the worst list Why do you think many of our ,possibly best players , aren available ?

Did you miss H/A ??

I blame Watts

Actually OD...having read of Smith I'm more inclined to believe Coaches make players...or rather...they determine their careers.

@Rusty Nails why do you think those players arent available ??? ?

Do we...need the $$ that much ?? Get rid of a few nice to have but not absolutely required ppl. But leaner...get meaner Get clever ffs Melbourne. ..bunch of fools

Smokey...there are indeed many valid reasons. That is to say...what has happened had a real cause and a real outcome. Much of this imho isn't ror debate. Where many choose different paths is cause of these reasons. For mine nearly every single facet is traceable to what the FD determined was its way forward. There's that 'design' conotation...again...in my view. What's happened has happened. We now need to devise a better plan, a better way of getting that plan to be effective. Its arguable as to whether those in charge atm...are the best to do this.

Aren't we all !!!

The nicey nicey way ..if actually done. And it gets you NOWHERE The whole point of kicking up a stink and playing the game in the media s Eddie or Scott or Jeff etc would is to put that idiot Dill Gil on his back haunches and put the league on notice we simply aren't going to accept this. Thats how you do it.

what other club would sit back ?? You reckon Hawks? Filth ? Windy Hill ? Puddycats ? Norf ? I doubt it ..Demons.....for sure. If there is anything you could safely put money on is we do NOTHING

Interesting you phrase it that way. I can remember watching the Swannies games last year. I can remember turning to a b-i-l ,( who is a Swanny, one of the few that aren't Filth..lol ), and actually making this very comment..."this is farcical, it looks like no one want to take a kick, they're all too scared !! "....and we were... bizarre

we've never REALLY got completely out of the swamp....and thats the problem

Harvey is currently at a functional club, well resourced with an outlook of success. Why would he be keen to go to an essentially dysfunctional one, with half the toys and assets , run by people that make Porpoise Point look normal !! I get he's the prodigal son and all...but he'd be mad imho

Really need a sarcasm font

I rate Ratten. But the Aints have always been a weird mob..really. You could make a movie

If this club had any gonads..... ( i can just stop there really )