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In the great recent history when have you seen the club so quick and keen to appeal...and in Roos case appeal again ? " Trigger happy" was somewhat tongue in cheek ;) but by comparison to our previous (in the main ) dour 'look the other way' approach it seemed apt.

Me too... exact thoughts.

Im not sure you can assume that. Historically we've never been as trigger happy as it were to rebuke the MROs cavalier hypocrisy. That strikes me more a change in mood rather than happenstance. Just me perhaps.

Are the bets voided though.... dont you just lose ?

Sort of reminds e of some ridiculous suburban/urban speed limits. Whilst supposedly about reducing risk of injury/death by lowering impact speed allit seems to do in many areasis remove the obligation for own safety as ppl just walk out into/onto streets expecting....no demanding cars evade/avoid them. Its this same sense of arrogant entitlement whereby a player absolves himself of any responsibility of actions and transfers it all to another. Can we just remove all the warning labels........

Nail on head. Max is the Captain. Captains lead....they dont shirk. Others will look to that lead to take 'instruction' I dont really want to enter into Max bashing as thats certainly not my intent. Max is a very good player. I just cant help but feel hes lowering his guard and lowering the flag somwhat at the same time How do walk tall on a field when your leader cops serious attention and seemingly does nothing. What is the message supposed to be ? Footy isnt a Softly Softly game. It's very hands on.. and gladiatorial. Not in a Neanderthal Rugby like manner but its hard body on hard body often. It requires a great deal of commitment. Commitment is a mental state of mind. Its something you can direct and control. Good teams need to apply that commitment for as much of those 4 qtrs as can. Ideally 100% o the game. Thats not a realistic result as its human to ebb and flow a bit. Nonetheless it must be the default intent.. A lot of psychiatry is employed in modern day sport. The reason is because the mind drives the body.. work away at your opponents psyche, get them to second think,to doubt , to put them off their game and half ( or more ) of the battle is won. Superior coaching will target any and all weaknesses, real or imagined in the opponent. Plan will be made to understand the weaknesses of others,the chinks in their armour and home in on them. Im sorry Max..theres a good reason oppositions target you... 1.. you let them. 2 by you doing little it sends a message to the others.... 3 They get you ...and its cutting the head off a snake. That the reactions to the Max targetting seemingly are none, that it goes unremonstrated must be by instruction. If it is it's the wrong one. Its all well and good to play ...turn the cheek and get on with it but thats not working anymore. We could rely on our game to carry us through but that game hs been worked out, countered and bettered ...by better coaches. We are getting hounded, we are getting pressured, we're getting worked over. And when an opponent does that we are a very ineffective team. Some opponents only manage it for 1 or 2 qtrs... manage it or 3...you beat us... The idea o weathering the storm doesn't work any more. And that hounding/ unsettling / niggle is about showing whos top dog on the day. Who better to target than the Captain . He doesn't do much about it... the team does sfa. Oppositions do this by instruction. Its not some random occurrence. Everything you need to know about Melbourne is summed up by how we deal with that. Doesn't make for happy reading does it.

The MRO has been weaponised

AFL turned into a soap.... not LUX

Irony...much

Save a packet on WB fees ;)

Anyone spoken to Stuart ??? Just wondering....

Soooo... Toiges.. Weagles... Woos... Wees'n'poos ... all fighting it out for the glory of the Spoon.. Go get it you good group of guys ...

🤔Oh Ch9... well.. they wouldn't fib or fob eh Wont shoot...just 🙄

Richmond in the [censored] A wonderful day

What Chest 🤔🤔🤔

Didn't see that coming.....

🤔🤔 Didn't see the game...... Perhaps you might have stopped with that. Had you....

How much of a heads up would you require ?

Maybe Master Goodwin can look himself in the mirror as well. Give himself a right rollicking for electing NOT to tag Butters.... just for starters....

What was actually to stop Lever just running... running quickly to where the up field umpire should have been waiting and kept running..i.e playing on.... Umpires probably dumbfounded and wouold have been forced to call Advantage..and until that moment no one could touch him.

Leave it to the umpires ... 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Tmac ....head practically taken offf... Free kick Port Righto.....

He was being ragged all the game. He decided he'd had enough. Good for him. A pox on his team mates for doing sfa prior. Yes it was designed that the kid would crack it... and the umps...buffoons they are got sucked in. Do you not understand its a physical game. VERY. There are elements of jungle rule out there. It's not chess....well, not the board version. It's competitive and combatant. There's certainly grounds for standing yours. That is to say a very big part of the game is territorial, both physically as well as mentally. It's not kick to kick and waxing turns. The suggestion you can just "add" to the scoreboard is comical. The path to scoring is all about the 'above'. The game is about winning. WIinning is accomplished by being better than your opponent. That encompasses a myriad of areas, not the least of which are fitness and strength . An adjunct is of course sklll as well as football prowess, but you can have those and still get beaten as you can literally get beaten into the ground and you wont be afforded opportunity. The best and most successful teams have a balance and blend of attributes.. The really good teams deny their opponents at all levels and all paths. A lot of footy is deemed between the ears. Physical intimidation is a tool to that end. Anyone who has ever stepped across a boundary to front up for competitive sport, team or solo knows how much is the physical ability to do it and how much the mental strength to apply. Retaliation, i sense, you mean direct [censored] for tat ? Arguably rarely wins the day, but might square the ledger. No...not Retaliation per se...but bringing the fight and niggle right back at them. Make those hits, bumps tackles really effective ( you cant say hurt anymore.. might upset and trigger someone) If you're prepared to led rough shod .... well.... you may as well not play.

In essence , it's a form of bullying. One that works a treat really. You never lower your eyes ( head ) to a bully. You push back twice as hard lest they win the mental battle and own you. We aren't good at all in this regard. Some teams know how to OWN us..and its our OWN fault.

The problem though is "Learning" and "Winning" are often two very different things. We as observers watch and learn much about the team. The Brains Trust seem slower on that uptake. Footy games at the top level are not meant to be Learning events. Leave that to the magoos. I'm affraid i dont see us improving any time soon. Lessons seem lost on those to whom it should matter most imho.

No ones in fear of playing us now... quite the opposite....see us as that cheeky win. We're stale bread. Rapidly becoming yesterday's team.