Everything posted by beelzebub
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
@binman...its not that anyone offered ridiculous Coin WILL move...but that they might where before it wasnt an option. Life....money....stuff happens
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Totally agree Moonie .It's the job of list managers to be vigilant. They work ( hopefully ) year round , compiling scouting reports, keeping an ear to the wall of the world of movement etc. It's the job of list managers to live among scenarios and what-ifs. We're fortunate to have a good crew in that department now. Id be aghast if they were not working the abacus and ouija board of possibilities. In Taylor and Co I trust
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Bernie Vince Retires
Hopefully the future is full of little Bernies and Bernadettes !!
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Brayshaw Re-Signs Until 2022
youd think theyd get him a nice dark navy blue with red piping eh !!
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Most Quarters Won in 2018
A vast improvement for the Dees. Still ..most qtrs isn't a guarantee to success ( ultimate ) Interesting.. Richmond ..same
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Most Quarters Won in 2018
out of curiosity...where was Richmond last year ( qtrs won )
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
That seems reasonable. I dont think anyone is suggesting ad hoc pawning of the lad. Of course it all falls under 'what if " that said point one :1. If another club WILL offers big money to Jesse: point 2 is the default. Again I cant see the club initiating anything....why would it...it can only unsettle things and cost a lot of money...BUT.... things CAN change, and then one thing acts as a catalyst. But essentially NC...youre just describing the generic basis of trade week....Sometimes things happen ...or not. Yes its speculation . Wild ?? I dont see it as terribly far fetched .
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
exactly...as mentioned above The suitor often needs to outbid the resident club.... thats how players get interested. It might also be said it is sometimes when clubs get interested. Im sure right at the moment things are relatively normal...and then the circus comes to town.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
We seem to play better with only 2 big KPF in the arc....it declutters
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
What am I refusing to concede ? He may not go home. He might. Until it's over it ain't over. We /you/ anyone can't debate the merits or even likelihood of an offer(s) until they surface. They aren't going to surface until we finish with finals ( with flag ) There are a number of different realities in footy. The h/a season. Finals.. Trade/draft circus... preseason . Each has it's own climate and peculiarities. Those most left of field environment I would suggest is trade week. If Jesse stays ..all well and good but exactly where and how he plays is a , imho, a vexed question. If he goes... again all well and good...what do we get. Who here would seriously bet their house he stays ? Brave
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Bernie Vince Retires
Bernie Bernie Bernie... What a bugger to not go out in style. Thanks for your efforts , contributions and leadership. A Demon champion.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Johnno suggests no so much doesn't....just not to right spots. Than in itself might cause him to be ignored as mentioned by another.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Funny how many don't see this...we stop bombing relentlessly...and efficiency to goal increases. It brings into question the whole fwd structure and how we play. This in turn raises the notion of who plays where. Hogan may be very good but he may not be the best solution. Doesn't surprise me some can't decipher the difference.
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Changes v Geelong - Elimination Final
Strangely I think Garlett would revel in the climate of a final.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
my there are some pompous among us. close all threads then What comical arrogance Careful wearing those Emperor's clothes there ....
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Finals Tickets
Don't think so. It's scanned tickets I believe
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
The seeds are there because they are there. You can glibly deny it til the cows come home. A thread on anyone isn't warranted. Nice deflection. I don't attempt to paint all with one brush as you would.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
A trade of Hogan ,though possibly unlikely , is however possible. The seeds have been around since he began his AFL career. There are many aspects to this. One I find bemusing is the dismissal , abjectly, of an offer that has yet to be tabled. Yes talks do go on out in the 'non-official' world. Often theyre to gauge the market. But like a real estate auction is often doesn't get real ( or even start ) til it's almost over . Of course no one is going to say anything other than a straight-bat reply. Nothing may eventuate but the merits and such are still valid questions. May the righteous bang their drums ( gives them something to play with )
- Sam Weideman
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I fully understand the Vibe, but Mabo I see it all holistically. It's about a team , a club. 160 years young and 54 without a flag. Whatever's best to that end. In that light Jesse may or may not be part of it. In a fashion it's irrelevant. His life is his. I wish him well. Players, coaches , officials come and go. But speaking of pathos, it's us Demon tragics that go the distance irrespective. Should it actually transpire, a trade, I'm sure Hogan will have no compunction donning another jumper. Nor do I. Footy is footy. I still don't understand how discussion of a players merits and worth etc is disrespectful.l
- Sam Weideman
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Please...such righteous indignation !! Actually players in the sense of being part of a list are exactly commodities. They are 'bought' "traded' " written down" . You don't like it...fair enough. Don't come the raw prawn though and have it only your way. If you take offence to the way some view the whole shebang you're likely to be offended again. Maybe find a 'nice' thread. I have no disrespect for any player as a person. Nor have I any real interest in them other than as a player. As a player they have their bit to do. They either do it or they don't. That's absolutely fair game for review as in my opinion their place on the list . You probably best steer well away from any List manager's office.
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Nathan Freeman
I can recall myself thinking he was a real looker. Apparently not ??
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Jimmy Toumpas
Is it just possible we move on ? Good luck to the lad . Not for us.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Thankyou ... It's relevant .