beelzebub

that was then...THIS IS NOW !!

Be happy enough if we can just bring the Run back !! ...then youd be..like...the fast ressuction shuffle !! B)

you really oughnt be so hard on yaself...cant have been all your fault.. lol ...

a little bit of tyre pumping I think you'l find !! ( adds to his value )

pretty fair I would have included Juice in the rising stars though .. A good read

somewhere I recall reading that no one else is interested in Meeson.. well not Richmond or Carlton.. so CAC has offered the Crows some meagre morsel...and either they bite at that or we will grab him in the PSD if no trade forthcoming. he wont cost us much any which way

Keep in mind...im suggesting that line up is for 08.. 09 may be different again depending on performances !! We can all sit back and want to trade this bloke for that etc etc..ad nauseum.. However..it takes two to tango. If the reciprocal trades arent available then you can only do what you can do. Im sure htis is the pragmatic approach being taken by Bailey. Do what you can, work with what you have, change as you can change !! You wont get everything you really want...just some of it; unless youre just dead lucky come trade/drafting.

To me the single biggest problem for Miller is he's a one trick pony...all he seems capable of doing is leading out ( and a long ways oout..lol ) to take a mark in a position which puts the forward line to disadvantage as its just slowed it all up !! Very mono-dimensional. The novelty of these has well passed its expiry date. Now maybe Bailey has something else to teach him.. ( but is he capable of learnig it ? ) I'd rather another team took that chance !!!

I really am thinking along Jaded's lines.. Ruck stock: White > Jamar >Meeson. With PJ regroomed as something else...but can pinch hit in ruck should injuries cause things to go south. That doesnt look too bad all things considered for 08

maybe , just maybe the thinking is.. sign him on 2... he does or doesnt(play). If he doesnt its easier to trade him contracted !! Its just a thought !!

My take on all this ...( and similar ) is bailey obvioiusly has a knack for eeking something out of blokes that wasnt forthcoming previously. This has various degrees of success. 2008 most likely will be a bit of a rebound year, but probably a developmental , weeding out year. its most likely neetas last.. White cant be too far behind. Players like Robbo and Junior will probably only have 2 or there abouts years left. Thats a far chunk of experience to go in a few years. Getting others up to speed and bringing them further along their skills road is going to be the challenge, not only for the coach(s) but for the players themselves. I only expect Melbourne to be competitive next year. I suspect a remoulding of the team will start. Players like Russian etc may or not come into their own but are obviously insurance. I agree with Jaded that PJ might/ought be developed more as a KPP. I suspect one stance taken by the new regime is that only so much can be done/effected each year. Some culling/retirement has already taken place, some trading wil loccur. A different looking Melbourne ( with hints of familiarity ) will take to the field. Things will be trialed.. observations taken.. more changes made etc...end of 2008 more changes etc.. and so it goes on. You would have to think a couple of players know its now or never. Obviuosly Bailey sees something we dont. I suppose we wait and watch

couldnt agree more

In all likely hood 2008 will be a development year... Miller aint developing any more!! thats just what is !!!! rather give the the time effort ( and money ) to bring someone else on.

Its Miller Time for sure.....all froth and bubble and not much else !!!! :D

am very happy that some think Miller has talent.. hopefully Sydney agree with you enough to release someone like Buchanan who really does !! what ever Miller is.. he hasnt shown to be of any use to us...and thats all that matters from a Melbourne perspective.. so when ajudicating on the qaulities or otherwise of frosty ask.. does he make any difference or impact on a footy ground in red and blue ? I think he doesnt... so am happy to trade him for someone who might !!

Happy to have him as he is.. lol ( he's not so silly !! )

"required player " thats right up there with a club being 100% behind a coach !! lol sounds more like posturing to me.. ( well hopefully ) I see great things also for Miller..... I see travel...and........

a loaded gun ??

ummm...lol ummm..ok.....we have #3 apologies pays to read all dem little letters doesnt it !!

we have #4 !!

I'm now of the opinion Neeta ought to still lead in 08.. he can go out in ablaze of glory...and hand over the job and seasons end... when we might have a clearer idea of his successor.

to say nothing of the Methane eminating from Princess park !!!!!! :D

well what a lot of shizen Mr Judd !! you want green.. Pratt is a babe in the woods compared to the "environment friendliness " and Green-ness " of this bloke http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,2...124-664,00.html Szental IS Mr Green !!.. so to say we arent gren enough is like saying the Eiffel tower isnt french enough !! sacre bleu !! ffs..lol but please ...keep trotting out the excuses.. Training facilities....balderdash !! Greenyness.. well does a bear sh!t in the woods? want s to play on the G.. go figure !! be part of a winning team.... this is the one I love.. .. the Bluetankers !!! winners !! you would still command respect if you only had come out and said....show me the money!! we wouldnt care for you.. but we'd call a spade a spade.. Now we're just going to call you everything else under the sun. I almost feel sorry for him...hope pratt's made a dollar shaped bed for you...coz we know you cant lay straight !!! very disappointed in you ... but extremely relieved a person of your character ISNT coming to Melbourne !! You wear No 3 !! not even worthy of his dirty soscks !! cant wait for the next installment of excuses 101 !!

probably because they dont want him !!

west coast will accept Carltons offer in the end.. after all its not too shabby.. its all hot air.. its far better than most can offer.. WCE like CFC are full of sh!t !! all bluff and bravado..