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well...I wasnt really sure whehter to put a + or a - !! lol

effectively you need to equate Murphy = Trapper + Frosty ????

i cant really see the Bummers giving up Bradley actually

took a lil while to get my head around all that.. ( it will stop spinnig anytime soon!! ) Quite fascinating all that Should that come off it will certainly go to reshaping the Red and Blue.. makes sense ona number of fronts, esp to me freeing up a wing. Well lets ee what else happens. Its definitely not going to be dull is it lol I still reckon we need beefing up in the backline.. maybe just me.

or 9 All Australian !! lol

sat's hun often goes live to net around 2am ( can vary ) .. ya better get somegood coffee and cookies !! lol

does anyone seriously expect any ?? I for sure dont

mark of the year not enough to sway you ?? ( not isolated event either ) He had immediate impact on the team and scoreboard, thats rates STAR ( in making ) to me. still, your list

I have no love for Collingwood.. they are of course our most hated of enemies !! But as a player I respect Buckley. Sure he's human and stuffed up on ocasions but he , as a week in week out performer is/was very very good. He would have some outstanding abilities to pass on to any group but I think he'l lall but walk straight into some sort of role with the filth; though if he was truly smart he start his post player career at another club. Id take him.

of course we had options. Its verry naieve and grandiose to assume the noble mantle..for what ?? We could have gone about it in sucha manner that the boys...who ever they were could still have had a red hot go.. just wthout any expectation of taking the lollies !! pride still intact.. and better situated at the moment. sometimes yo do have to take a sideways step in life in order to allign your self for better prospects...thats just hard and fast reality. Everything else is fairytales !! seriously !!

you would hope :D

they can have mine too...mine just conditional the conditions are that they do whats asked of them, thats all ..and if they cant...well....

the thing in all this trade this 'n ' that etc is that its a numbers game..( plus some people for interest..lol ) .. Bit liek the scholl yard come marble time... I'l swap you 2 round 2 picks for that bloke...or will you take this guy and a good second round pick for a lower 1st round pick ..and so it goes on. Essentially you may get what you want...but it may be by indirection and secondary trading !! Hopefully that made some sort of sense !! :D

I suppose the thing..well is for me.. is that in a sense the players are only contributory .. i actually barrack for the TEAM. i want the team to succeed. I really couldnt give a stuff who they are..only that there is a Melbourne. Its in this vein that I get very frustrated by the leniency afforded those whose job it is to contribute when all they add is their presence. now that may seem particularly mercenary .. but does anyoe really care who would be wearing red and blue come premiership time ?? I certainly dont. Only hope we can succeed and be competititve. QC I appreciate you have a very different take on all this..and thats your prerogative.. we will just have to follow our team differently

well yes....and NO you will only ever reach the limit of your ability. Some players never reach it...some have !!

proof perfect that it is indeed hilarious here !! lol

it wasnt so much who "looked after ' the last games... as much as the instructions of "how to "

WCE can only claim 'some ' compensation. They arent going to get a Judd for Judd.. not even a "Judd's" worth.. Like a trade in...you never realise is REAL value, just what the market will bear !!

but anyhow...that was then and this is now. I suppose we sit back and see what goodies can be had !!!! mwahahahah !!!

it would have been perfectly legit i reckon to mothball a couple ( prepackaged for surgery etc..lol ) and as you say get a few more games into some of the newbies. Could have even legitmately trialled them in a 'different " possie or two; just to see how they go in 'real " time etc !!.. would have just been responsible nurturing of injuries and explorative selction !! it could have been !!!

you nominate for the draft... you payz ya money..you takes ya chances !! realiity is invariably some thing has been organised... But that doesnt guarantee it wil come of on the day!!

it simply wasnt platable to many to see the bigger picture...and work towards it...such is life !! lol

yes.. I think many are now really starting to understand what was a stake in that last game !!

to be honest...Id be loathe to cough up pick 1. i would have thought 3, 20.and someone was in all reality a doable thing. For sure West Coast can play hard ball, but why are they then surprised if carlton play harder. I seem to recall that WCE and carlton had been talking for a while before Judd selected scumland !! so what changed.. I have the feeling its actually WCe who may have renegged on a vrebal agreement to take 3, 20 and someone !! Of course its all conjecture, but why has it suddenly gone belly up...only can be because someone has changed position. carlton all along said #1 wasnt an option. So make of it all what you will. and cliche # whatever !%@ Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive !!!! lol Whilst I dont condone entirely what carlton is up to.. I almost begrudgingly admire their determination. One thing Carlton dont do , is they dont muck around. ( still hope they fall in a hole...lol )