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this ^^^^^^^ Hes on the verge...and menacing.. Those that THINK this was the game will get all squishy when the real one comes along Just building up a head of steam btw...what happened to all the doubters and knockers.......hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Steve I wil lunderstand why many wil bag you here. In all fairness you have elected to highlight the bad and not the good. There were falshes of brilliance by Green and hes seemed to have ditched the yips. All this is good. I do commend you however for having the balls to suggest its not all plain sailing with our captian and there were indeed passages which might make some think...wtf... I can remember watching Green many years back at SSandy thinking , heres a prodigious talent but one hel lof a "Look at me " show off d!ckhead. He has for most lost much of his brassiness but occasionally it sneaks back. His game is much more rounder now nbut its not complete by a long ways. They werent the hardest 5 were they . But 5 they were.

if all were in the same basket youd agree. However.. Scully is light years beyond either Warnock or Maric. . If either of the latter two go it wouldnbt be much of an issue. Some dissappointment but hardly anything to lose sleep on. Scully going is big time for al lthe reason already covered in this thread. He IS a #1 pick. Others arent. Bailey..is hardly the same kettle either. Nice try but im not buying the eggs are all from one basket line here Old

I disagree . No one person is a team. Without doubt wed al lprefer he stays. Bu itf he doesnt we'll do just fine without him. The ensemble building and froming will carry us on regardless of whether one Tom Scully is rthere or not. Our future is bright...its whether or not Toms is

Maybe not.. He confounds many currently for he doesnt reveal much, but honestly in his current position he wont. When he eventually settles at where ever we might see a different Scully, more open and forthcoming....not all this secret squirrel sh!t of present.

I know its reading far too much into something, but that might be the case if thiswas something in isolation and I dont think it is. Icomment upon the body language and demeanor of Scully at teh singing of the song. Is it just me or sid he look just bloody awkward there. He didnt really come across as 100% . Came across as rather mechanical, no spirit. Probably lurching at shadows, and I'll wear that but all these little indicators would have many an observer wondering. Was almost tinged with a little of " I know something you dont"

welcome to the "voiced"

Theres a bit of logic and sense here. Also with Jurrah whilst it ought not be really an excuse for his form here is a man playing whilst he has far too much on his plate in the form of his family and community problems. Far too much weight on his mind You wouldnt be human if it didnt affect you . This does raise the spectre of which is better for him. To continue persevering or let him sort it out and come back fresh and settled? Its an unfortunate dillema. But I do lke the idea of sticking Russian down front and relieving in the ruck

will we make the 8 ? yes we will be there when it counts ? Im not so sure. Until we can actually play 3 winning qtrs against teams that actually exert real forward pressure then we're not more than Show Ponies beating up the weakies !! Some players are really coming on bit as a team were 100% susspect.

3 words Up and down or is that down then up

I think there is a major misnomer regarding al this and that is the notion that the Decision will come end of season. No...an announcement is what will be made...the decision in all likelyhood has already been made !!

Not really..extrapolation perhaps..but hyperbole ...thats but a view Then maybe he was wrong !! Supposition ..Its never really been said how all that actually panned out. We only know the result, not the path. Not ideal ?? Makes it sound like its almost OK, and its not, far from it. Nahh..not conned at all...were sitting pretty on this... totally !! The AFL didnt have any agenda..nah, nah, nah !! IF.... hey thats just a little inconsequential word isnt it ? Hardly worth noting.. IFs as good as a definite to a blind horse

There are two issues really here...related but distinct. 1) The unenviable position Melbourne finds itslef , along with other clubs , that they can have players nicked from under their noses, with dubious and unspecified conpensations. 2) The direction Scully's career will take

This along with a smidge of WYL's idea that it was all a bit slap dash and rudely quick . We f#$%ed up as did 16 other clubs however we as bearers of the best picks stood the most to lose should we be targeted and hey, guess what.. we are. We got caught well and truly with our pants down here but all things considered it hasnt been helped one iota by the sly underhandedness and crafty bottom card dealing of the AFL. Its no wonder Vlad throws it all back at us as thats been the design all along. Its currently all about getting GWS up and running . Its al labout Vlads empire and bragging rights in Sin City. Its about his compulsion to go where no fottballer has gone before !! Its baby out with the bathwater effectively but its all right as long as the greater vision of Vlad is served. WE GOT CONNED...we werent alone but we ought to have been far more alert.

Youd think so...its the next best thing in future banking after actual talented young players. Youd think ALL clubs would be keeping thi sin mind as they go about build player assett bases. Hope we are.

I totally agree on this point. The CBA element is really a furphy. Its surmountable to all parties acceptance, if that indeed was the goal of both parties. Whilst not able to lock in a figure for the CBA component a guesstimate can be used to start from. What Scully/management is really about is entertaining bids and deals from other clubs. They cant do this until end of play round 22, not officially If he was truly of a mind to play and stay it would be easy enough to come to terms that would still allow room to move re money/conditions. That this isnt happening is what leads many to consider his future isnt red and blue.

The notion of replacing Bailey...and doing it now are essentially mutually exclusive. You can do one without the other. The writing was scribed in 10 foot tall letters on the wall recently enough. Lyon spoke them. He has 5-6 weeks to ...etc etc etc..."insert whatever version of ultimatum/consequnce you prefer " but its essentially..Either we get back on track with more wins than losses or its all over red rover. whats really accomplishable for the next 11 weeks irrespective of whos at the helm ? Finals ?? Mathematically ? Yes.. Likelyhood ..NO !! Years result.. Well the optimistic and/or apologists will offer up its yet another development year. The realists , strangely enough will counter, no, agree, it in effect has become yet another development year. Will it really mattter who takes the wheel til seasons end ? I doubt it. Is there reason to think continuity til seasons end might offer more cohesion , more balance, more poise especially heading into the next preseason and year ? I think so I think Bailey is the right man for the rest of 2011, but beyond I just cant see it . This doesnt stop the club instigating its search for his replacement

Its been about this all along.... This happy distance of convenience between commitment and psuedo aloofness. wonder if it was a bad omen giving him 31

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This is the same hypocrite that allows himslef generous remunerations and an immiinent pay rise but would have the players...those that actually generate the spectacle branded greedy for wanting a more representative slice of the action ?? yeah right !! I have not stated expansion is not necessary...so cut the Strawman arguments of loading that together...epic fail There are ways to do that without compromising the other clubs or hang ing them out to dry. His ( Vlads) action sare making a mockery of his own directions and supposed levelling of the field..He constantly changes the goal posts to suit. He may be your pin up boy Thomo...but hes certainly not mine nor that of many in the game.

Hes not compromised !!! ffs its a situation of his own making. He loves it the Narcisistic @#$%. Vlad is above all this as he thinks hes above the game itself.. This is Vlads playground where all the minions do his bidding and be grateful for the opportunity. He doest give a rats !!!

The long and the short of it all is that .. as profoundly redundant as it sounds. We wont know anything til we know something. There are indeed dark forces amongst us that seek to unbalance and cause mayhem. They do a pretty good job of it too. Interesting in the Buckley story that obviously Buckley it seemed WANTED to go and was accomplice to it all. I have no real grounds to believe anything anyone about al this says. By this I refer to the parties of his management, GWS, the media etc. Like BRFE suggests.. Ill believe Tom ( unequivocally) when he signs. In the mean time Ill harbour my reservations and await the next piece of the puzzle.

That would be a pretty good result. A little list un-clogging and a pick or two as compo that could be amalgamated into something. A win-Win. that blokes got bloody good eyesight from all the way over there !!!

For whichever reason there were many times the Filth had men on own or with far too much space. So whats happening..? Poor communications between players, or ambiguous instructions ( or just bad ones) to players from coaches. Made us look extremely amatuerish at times. They were commensurately professional and tenmacious...we seemed all bit lost and at sea on too many occasions. Usual suspects here as to reasons