beelzebub

like it or not we played like :

SO much is down to confidence. Where Melbourne hesitated Carlton didnt. .

Skills ...do we have any ?? jeebus there was some attorcious kicking.. Actually if yourre calrton is was good delivery to them

Green - tried to lead Warnock - was there, probably Jones - lacks the finish Watts - class and clangers Gysberts - struggled, tried, struggled Bate - m e h Bennell - where ball aint Frawley - lost beyond square Morton - terrible bloody kick Sylvia - solid seconf efforts McKenzie - hope your learning Petterd - was he there Maric - good and bad Moloney - had colours lowered Jurrah - just didnt click Rivers - not too shabby MacDonald - beleive, son, beleive Martin - no-one roved him Jetta - not Le Roy Newton - kinda had go Nicholson - no shining debut Evans - bettter for run

What is, is.. You CANNOT argue it wasnt a mistake as Bailey has already ceded to it. You split hairs where none are to be split.

1) they occur from game to game.. others see them too. . an eg..and not confined.. shifting Juice ( of all ppl) out of a winning position into a losing one..killing momentum up front..sticks in mind...didnt jot many others down at the time.. my bad. An element of what you post suggests is without doubt right.. Often he does get matchups right...just take too long switching them. Horse bolted etc. Possibly his worst error is to second quess himself when on many occasions his gut instinct would have been right..but more effective earlier. 2) yep..made mistakes.. even learn form some.. None of which as to do with the Coach of Melbourne and where we currently are.

Hey RB ..hows tha lad holding up. I cant think of to o many , let alone AFL players that must have "home' weighing on them quite so much. Dont envy him at all. Im not fussed over Liam's footy. Doing ok with the limited opportunites etc. Many others ahead of him in the 'worry' queue

wel two things on this. Firstly unelss youre privy to his iner thinkings you have no idea as to what else hes failed to act on , he does admit to this. Judging by sonme strange matchups and moves over time id say this wasnt a one out occasion. Yes. We all make mistakes. His contribute to us losing. Not sole cause..but contributory. As to opportunities. Its really a separate issue as to things such as where and on whom Watts played on a day. Also...his hand is forced. Injuries require others to fill void. Impossible to truly know who or when some would have debuted or played otherwise. His forte is supposedly developmental, granted. Personally I wish it was winning games

Its only benefit is if it prompts to act in the moment the next time. If he doesnt ( act upon whatever needs acting ) then its all words. If words is saying, then add saying to hindsight as to things that dont win you matches...Only DOING does...well gives you the chance. all goes to Talking the Talk or Walking the Walk. we're struglling to crawl

Oh how such obvious observation will be missed by many.... A bit early possibly to pass judgement...but certainly an appropriate juncture to judge

Lets not get too cute or apologistic for him shall we, He himself says he wished he had played Watts on Goddard.. Thats it. You cant extrapolate out ad-infinitum. Bailey wished he had, but missed the opportunity..its irrelevant what the opportunity was for, whether to fil la game day situation or anything longer term..he missed it. He says so himself. Its marvellous in a way that he recognises it, uselss in another as that moment has passed, opportunity missed. i.e FAIL !! He subscribes to the notion that he is always learning and that today he will strive to be a better coach than yesterday, his mantra, not made up by me. Hindsight never won a game

There are a few replies I could use to illustrate my thinking but this will do , you're it lol. I have the notion Bails is a very decent bloke, quite amiable, intelligent and dedicated. Love to have a beer with him etc. However my only concern for the club is to have an "effective" coach, one that gets results. Elsewhere I've suggested that HE needs to be brave, be bold and be quick . On all three he failed in relation to Watts. This is exactly where an effective coach would have realized the opportunity and made the call. Far too often we all lament what might have been but you have to DO, not try, nor think...... DO. Bailey seems a marvelous mentor and developer but when you take away the luxury of time then I'm sorry he just isn't DOING it !! Matchday and training are two very different things. He will have this year. He is hamstrung but even so there ARE possibilities for creativity and effectiveness. He'll need to show these to remain beyond 2011

it explains the Mathews sightings

This doesnt bode well Just have a red hot go guys...thats all we ask. I reiterate another's plea to Bailey... be brave...be bold...and be quick to react.

Ah yes..take Strauss off the endangered list for 2011...lol

Just as a hypothetical...lets say he has. Develop the case for negligence >

I would think Joel is sound insurance for the backline's depth.. Plus hes a bit older..and adds a bit of maturity to the team. Doubt hes going anywhere for a year or two, i.e until someone usurps his position. I think Bate is quickly exhausting all his get out of jail cards. Maric has shown something.. more than some others can say. Struass.. relevance factor to us ?? hard to know.. Seems others are scooting past him though. Endangered list, quite possibly. Juice...well whats left to say. Hes actuyally tries a littel bit this year, but probably too little too late.Others coming through, make room etc. Wonna....phew... heres a hard call. Lit up the game liek a Christmas tree then ....... gone. Has "fitness" issues. probably eascape any cull this yuear but would be on notice youd have to feel. Dunn... avery good VFL player...enopugh said whomever's suggesting Fitzy...youd have to be joking. Hes got at least 2 more years to develop before he'll be looked at. Warnock .... hmmmm.. Blease...hmmm (also ) needs to get a few runs on board to esacpe suspicion. All in all it will all depend on how many the FD's looking to churn. Will depend in turn on how many it feels it can get via trade or draft. I suspect between 6-9 will go at seasons end...one way or another I think some might go as sweeteners to some pick swapping. and hell we've only touched the players !!!!!!

OK..Even Im curious ( genuinely ) as to what write you here, between the lines . If a deal , of any desccription has been struck, then surely Scully would be knowledgable of it. No ? If tis is the case, then how on earth can he suggest otherwise without lying ? I dont think negligence is a suitable criteria for any of this.. It supposes , should it have happend, that it could have been prevented. And I dont really see how since the party concerned withdrew from any participation in negotitiations. . You cant get out-dealt, if there are NO cards on any table.

we're so up and down its hard to determine . When the mean starts outpacing the median of our performances then were getting somewhere, until then weve really come nowhere !!

Howes had a couple of BOG or Best for Melbourne ( Casey ) performances this year already. I would have thought he was well up front for a gig. We could certainly use a live wire up the sharp end. Congrats Nicholson..

QueenC though this does indeed all seem moot now I will attempt to answer your question I suppose it starts with what you really hope to achieve. My ultimate goal here would be to get Davey playing somewhere near his ability. I dont really expect to see that kid who mesmerised us all years ago on debut against Richmond..He seemed everywhere and menacing. Quick as a flash..and the rest is..as they say..history. Not always a happy one though. My premise is to get him playing good footy(again) . As I see it in a very much glass half-full/half empty dilemma , we can seek to be rehabititative or punitive. My first reaction was as many ...chest beating, stick thumping...send him down.. down...down.. !! lol But im not convinced that would really achieve the predescribed outcome. It might as a second resort. So in the rehabilitative mode Id reverse your thougths above and suggest if you are to think wed delay punishment by postponing such discourse then youre also faced with postponing redirection by similar time delays. When one stuffs up the best occasion to seek correction is straight away. i.e Son..that was utter cr@p now go back out and get cracking at playing properly. If you cant THEN youre going for a spell in the magoos. I dont see it a all as rewarding him by allowing him to play ( if was to have ) but simply attempting to expedite and rebuilding confidence and desire rather than rushing to punish for punish sake. You can always do that. .

a little bit more than "some extra" by all reports... but yeah...no reason at all

what year do yo suggest this is ?

its highly likely Scully wil be having 2 games with Casey to ease him back. QB is the tip

Ossie Ossie Ossie...oi oi oii lol