beelzebub

But would Neeld... I still dont understand what or why Mark would want or need this bloke.

Why would Neeld invite Ratten into the fold . I must be missing something here

God its fun when its not us for a change lol

I thought it was normal for big cats to sleep during the day !

but hed probably get a cab nowadays lol

This is really the crux . If you canter crack it for a game at present ... Oi Vey !!!

yep..lets jump on the Stillnox bandwagon ! Very convenient hey lol.Its laughable

Dale Kerrigan wants a word with you !!

Whats the bet that Vlad inc will accept the Toiges official version? And with Vlad on hols too lol. Oh yes...everything is above board and transparent . Yep

the point was Jamar is off seen by some as unable about the shoulders when in fact hes an ok mark and capable goal kicker. Never a 1st choice for the square but a handy fill in of sorts . We HAVE to improvise

i for one dont mind the idea of Jamar starting in the square and coming into the game in bursts. Eases him back in a fashion.I think hes not as bad as some seem to think in the marking dept . some have forgotten a day out against the cats some years back. He'll make a reasonable target and poor mans ff for now, changing with Martin .

call him on Tardis 555 123

Ok here is some very simple logic. Jack Viney is by nearly all accounts top 10. By many observers top 5. Some have him in the mix of best 3. We. The MFC have in reality one first round selection we can use. We, despite all rhetoric,smoke,mirrors or bluff have an agreement of understanding to select Jack if hes the best pick at that point. It will be very hard to mount an objective and fair ( to all parties )rationale that he wont be. Therefore unless we are dead lucky and neither GC nor GWs decide to either counterbluff or actually desire Jack with a bid then we are simply going to have to take him with 3. So be it. Edit. Btw did i mention we desperately need a class inside /outside mid with elite skills and sound decision maling that can not only get his own ball but provide a good link. That and hes almost scarily fearless and has shown (already) he can play with MEN !! He has shown he HAS it. Its not a gamble. So about those other suggestions for using pick 3.......

salient point somehow missed by many

not everyone got the joke !! not everyone has a sense of humour nor for that matterr does everyone have sense. personally i reckon you could get away with a second round pick !!

I think theres a general tendency amongst forums to talk about all this is generally simplistic and idealist terms.. We all seem to construct scenarios that in reality are far from script that the actual clubs will work to. Its a bit like real estate speak. So may would have you beleive there are bay views, but that holds true only if youre standing on the roof leaning against the tree hanging on for dear life. Yes the view is there....but. And so we have the constructs of drafts, whereby if this team or that somehow havent a clue about a players actual worth they may overlook etc etc. The teams arent stupid. They have their lists of who is who and their strengths, weaknesses etc. They also have their WANT list. One teams absolutes needs may be a little different from the next. They migh talso have slightly diffferent non negotiables etc. I have no doubt we are seeing the outward manifestations of some smoke and mirrors in an attempt to faze other suitors but their scoutrs will be informing the respective Footy Depts as to what is what and who is who. GC and GWS will ONLY be interested in Viney if he suits them. He may not. They I would suspect have bigger issues and more key positions to fill before they look to another mid. They both have a few. Melbourne needs to be prepared to cough up pick 3 if it needs to and suck it up. But we might get lucky. The drafts arent super slanted to the newby clubs anymore and they may this year be far more circumspect about using the top picks. In the end...Viney is a type of player we desperately need. If if was some other bloke we were after wed all be frothing and foaming and insisting that we get him with 3. Just because we think hes in the bag we want to get all clever and try tooutfox all the other clubs. Do we do that and risk the bird in hand for two in the draft ?

Ron...I simply dont think thats the greatest quality thats missing in some of these blokes.. not so much fitness as you would have it... more ticker I suggest.

Hell be worth whatever the club decides. And im happy to back the clubs judgement ahead of mine

Some...possibly....Some will be gone too

My understanding was he isnt back to his previous playing weight either. I might be wrong on that but if so hes not his usual 100% self...just yet

Davey only a stop gap now. Best years behind now.

i'll have what hes having !!Im not sure that we might go that far; 8 or 9 is my thinking but if Neeld summises that a big broom has to go through Thats fine by me. I mean if you cant stick your hand up in this season,of all seasons then you cant be worth squat !!!

Its school hols again ?

probably wouldn't actually lol

Moneyball.... Ka-ching !!