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@58er Just how many premierships have Hawthorn won in the last 25 ? I'm pessimistic ?? Your bloody delusional lol

We might be on the track.....but we need to keep moving. Need to be relevant....to folk beyond us. We'll always be members. The powers that be within the club can't be complacent.

And maybe I need to repeat myself. I'm neither negative nor pessimistic. I'm realistic. I don't drink the Koolaid that's de rigueur around here for many. Collingwood is a brand unto themselves. Well done filth. I envy them. But they HAVE tasted real success in modern football. Richmond have a very parochial following born out of their actual suburb and identifying withe the Punt Road ideal. We suffer as we have no real home, no real roots,no real anything anymore. Whenever we've put something out there...I E an item ( emphasis on AN) Of clever marketing or promotional verve...it's left orphaned. Ridiculous. Amateurish really. If Pert wants 70k ( plus ) two things are required.... Real success, and creating an identity that has meaning. So far we have neither... that's just what is.

It's not hysterical to be realistic. That we are somewhat advanced numbers wise this year is only a reflection of the carry over effect of last season. Well probably end up with about 55 K this season which is certainly not shabby for a bunch of skiers. Also a reality is if we don't play finals this year then the momentum will stop ( for now ) and you'll struggle to repeat this year's figures. Why ? Because people are people and money is money. Off-field membership is effectively a barometer of of on-field success. Ask anyone in sales...the hardest sell is the repeat sell.

Then we still need a C

There's no $ in this thread...ok...none

Problem isn't this year so much. A lot signed up upon expectations. Come EOS ...and if no success... Good luck signing as many so quickly.

Some players are just fun to watch. Allir, Tipu etc.

Off the bottom... Such lofty ambition. Haven't our achievements changed from the predicted !! I'm just all warm and fuzzy about this. Surely.... anything from 9 down....is just the bottom ?? Look at us...golleeeee...the foundation club doing what we've done best..... supporting the ladder !!

That would surely be an oxymoron... I E. Giving oxygen to morons !!

Careful who you smack....they might whack you back

That's admirable.. Mine's empty...drank it to steel myself against the inevitable tide.. Going to be an interesting game.

Well not pretenders..as such.... it'll just mean we've evolved this style as far as it can go. We'll have found our ceiling. We just need to be clever in our football...not so Neanderthal

This strategy ... this chaos style is, to me ,very reminiscent of "whack the gopher". I.e it's manic . And you have to just keep keeping at it. Nearly impossible to keep it up all game...and if you do...the toll is very high. I actually believe what we're seeing at the start of this season is the price paid for our 'good' run at the back end of last season. We need to learn and master tempo...or we'll fry ourselves.

The stationary player is the get and give transition. Ideally he has it for next to no time and passes it to an outside runner. We often lack this very runner.

Excellent post @Mazer Rackham Keep in mind that the AwFuL don't actually want people to be able to find the rules, the real ones, as then there exists a metric to judge by. All about keeping the sporting proletariat confused. I'm sure a lot is just made up on the fly... according to the vibe of the game and the the whimsy of over participant umpires.

Maybe...need a team that runs both ways all day to do this

Bizarre is one word... there's others....

Been doing it for ages

Some silly frees ( port's fault ) cost them.... otherwise

Here's the thing for me ...Allir was ALWAYS going to play well and be instrumental coming off the HB line. . Preuss not only kept him honest...provided a target...but hey kicked goals and chopped out for Max. win win WIN !! It's a no brainer...

Is this..."my enemy's enemy is my ally " ?? lol

Someone needs to check the Ess drink bottles... actually check Brisbane's too !!!

The context of both is surely opportunity. Should have been around 25 against Ess. We managed to do ok in a final against a team that we had struggled against. Horses...courses.

Might we kick more...if there were more there capable of kicking them, of making efforts to do so rather than focusing on defence.