beelzebub

Someone actually getting close to the issue. The real one. All we are seeing are the resultant symptoms.

Keep drinking the Koolaid. There's lots. At what point...in all seriousness , are you going to wake up and smell ....the air. It's pretty rank currently. Apparently we're traveling alright by your account. I'd like a premiership. You're content with next week's pasta recipe from one of your special lads.

Didn't read any... straight to trash... that's all it is

Said that...in a fashion weeks ago. They need a map.....showing them doors......marked 'exit' We have as decent ingredients as any...and a putrid recipe being delivered by cooks masquerading as chefs.

We blinked

Easy..the one in charge

Not the players

Sh.. FD Simples...we have an amount of talent. Can't organise a p.ss up All the apologists forms a line...be patient...plenty of the special cordial for you. All the excuses, and creative accountants ought to make for humourous reading. My god ...wake up folks. How's Buller looking

Any team will....that can. We're dumb as dog sh...in the box , Honestly. The naysayers can tell and scream all they like Just open eyes please.

By design

Goodwin's style is everything Roos' wasn't. We're mono dimensional garbage. How many years of this. . Oy vey lol I'm laughing... Koolaid is Koolaid Enjoy the BS believers. Our FD is wanting.

So it is the vibe !!!

I'd be very surprised to see Preuss play. Let him mend/rest. Cheers for the updates.

Probably the most relevant thing above all. Best we keep it simple and do just this !! ?

Quite an interesting topic really. I wonder how many, other than the aforementioned 20-30000 are recurring members ? There's often talk of a large dormant support for the Dee's. These are past members that have NOT re-signed. This is where I go when discussing the 'repeat business' ... the resell. A lot of Melbourne Members simply have not stayed on an ongoing basis. They bought in....then got browned off. Some have a second dip years later....then drop off again, probably forever then. So ah...how's Motorola going these days btw ?? lol

Think about it. They WON'T get the repeat sales unless the first pans out well. Analogy ( kinda to footy ) ...yes somehow or other you've convinced someone to buy a membership. There can be any number of reasons to motivate that. But to keep someone forking out the money they either have to be simply resigned to the reality....or encouraged by success ( ongoing ) There might be a core of stoic/silly members but the growth cones from success over a reasonable period. And btw... nothing to do with Motorola...just what I have observed over many years.. and dealing with others in various businesses. A lot of ppl buy the wrong stuff initially as they've been conned. These seldom go back to the same well.

@58er Just how many premierships have Hawthorn won in the last 25 ? I'm pessimistic ?? Your bloody delusional lol

We might be on the track.....but we need to keep moving. Need to be relevant....to folk beyond us. We'll always be members. The powers that be within the club can't be complacent.

And maybe I need to repeat myself. I'm neither negative nor pessimistic. I'm realistic. I don't drink the Koolaid that's de rigueur around here for many. Collingwood is a brand unto themselves. Well done filth. I envy them. But they HAVE tasted real success in modern football. Richmond have a very parochial following born out of their actual suburb and identifying withe the Punt Road ideal. We suffer as we have no real home, no real roots,no real anything anymore. Whenever we've put something out there...I E an item ( emphasis on AN) Of clever marketing or promotional verve...it's left orphaned. Ridiculous. Amateurish really. If Pert wants 70k ( plus ) two things are required.... Real success, and creating an identity that has meaning. So far we have neither... that's just what is.

It's not hysterical to be realistic. That we are somewhat advanced numbers wise this year is only a reflection of the carry over effect of last season. Well probably end up with about 55 K this season which is certainly not shabby for a bunch of skiers. Also a reality is if we don't play finals this year then the momentum will stop ( for now ) and you'll struggle to repeat this year's figures. Why ? Because people are people and money is money. Off-field membership is effectively a barometer of of on-field success. Ask anyone in sales...the hardest sell is the repeat sell.

Then we still need a C

There's no $ in this thread...ok...none

Problem isn't this year so much. A lot signed up upon expectations. Come EOS ...and if no success... Good luck signing as many so quickly.

Some players are just fun to watch. Allir, Tipu etc.

Off the bottom... Such lofty ambition. Haven't our achievements changed from the predicted !! I'm just all warm and fuzzy about this. Surely.... anything from 9 down....is just the bottom ?? Look at us...golleeeee...the foundation club doing what we've done best..... supporting the ladder !!