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I didnt watch but ill take a stab The boys were very disheartened We didnt see it coming after an improved preseason All the indicators and pre season form (sic) predicted a more competitive effort. We just have to learn from these disappointments and move on The boys did some soul searching and know they have to lift for the team, the club and the frustrated and weary supporters. Stick with us we are on the right track. Improvement will come. Its football and we can only play the opposition that fronts witb our best 22. Its one week at a time !! Close ???? Lol

its time Watts..and quite a few of his mates simply stop talking.

Im finding a lot about Melbourne rather screwy presently. Anyone would think Nat Jones is the captian half the time

"Watts, a No. 1 draft pick, said that after years at the bottom of the ladder the team crumbled when things got tough." entered into evidence....... team has mental weakness when it counts "That sort of culture and that grit to be able to turn those things around when momentum goes against us, because at the moment we just crumble." see above .......its between the ears "We need a few blokes to stand up - myself included - and get us going the right way." There you go son......the answer is staring you in the face......some watch....some do....whats it to be ?? 4 years and waiting.

I commented upon this before... then it a lwent missing I wont change my view.. I reckon Cummings is pretty close to the flag on this one. Im not having a go per se at Watts but possibly someone go and give him a good clip around the ears. That Watts comments in the vogue he chooses simply for mine examplifies exactly whats wrong with Melbourne Weve got a team when most are waiting for someone to lead., some sort of Messiah expectancy complex perhaps. its not the result of one having a catalytic effect it needs everyone to step up and have a dip and taking the team by the scruff of its collar and get going. I dont expect Sylvia to. I dont expect Sylvia to do anything, not anymore. but thats an aside Jackie boy, ....Grasshoppper...look within for your answer. dont wait......do !!

sunrise.. are posts , blindfolds and firing squads involved ?

The many here will have heard this before. I arrived on a boat later Dec 1964. I turn up at scool the following Feb as a young 5yo. 1st question....whats ya name pommy ?? This one i knew from even my limited years on this earth. 2nd question. Who'd ya follow ??? Huh.... You know what footy team ?? Wtf ( or eqivalent for 5yo ) Ummm, thinking as quick as possible . Now the process went along lines of : We live in Melbourne and im guessing theres a team called Melbourne !! I have no idea of the teams status; hell i didnt even know what Footy was. I answer faux confidently MELBOURNE . The rest is history . A really crappy one

Re OP God knows !!!

No...watts !!!

Season flushed Comments flushed Maybe we ought be renamed the Flushers !!

[censored] happens Meh

In reality I hope Neeld has it. I fervently wish he is a coach and a damn good one. Just nothing signals this so far. We seem like a boat cut adrift, bobbing about at the mercy of the waves. All will be revealed Im sure in the coming month. ie either he has the moxy or he has zilch. I again hope its the former. I want the club to be successful. Who the players are and coaches it matters not, not really. It just worries me some. If you were tring to lose a game you couldnt have done much better. No doubt that isnt the case. This club reminds me of Mark Webbers ability to get off the grid swiftly everytime. . He ought to be able to...just cant

Look after yourself and your family.... To paraphrase some mob.....their first and forever

I have a bottle Old. On standby !! Lol I hate the start of the season. I shouldnt. Every year for yonks now we turn up to be vicerated !! Neeld. You dont have three years any more. I reckon you have 3 weeks to show your mettle . Otherwise Ill personally order the timber for the gallows. How was it so totally bad ......all day ?? Ive a Pauline Hanson on the line. Shed like to ask you something !!

I will simply wait and watch this sat. If nothing changes in terms of style and execution then Neeld will have signed his own warrant. If 1) the team tries 2) the team effects a more engaging type of footy and 3) we are competitive then im prepared to watch and wait. Maybe there is something stirring and it judt misfired. If the same [censored] is served up then i cant really be bothered for the year. I find it sad i can even think let alone write that. Im this far off having had enough. Got any Scotch left Old ??

good attempt at straw !!During season they are footballers 7 days a week ,like it or not. Thats what you NEED to be today to be elite. To be average....they just need to stick to current attitudes.

While theyre on the clock and thats everyday during the season they are accountable. Thats how professionals treat it. Time they did

summed up completely and poignantly. Sigh !!!

I really am not sure what to make of any of this. However i dont subscribe to the idea that it is as a result of the same ol same ol, whatever that is. Theres practically a new/refined list. The coaching and support is only a year old. The bigwigs have sweet f-a to do with how the teram is trained and coached so I for one hope some wake up to that and stop this lingering get rid of the CEO and president crap. It does however weigh and lay squarely on the shoulders of Neeld and his extended family of assistants , both conditioning and coaching. I saw the team train only a few times before this seasons start and quite frankly wasnt overly inspired. It seemed very mechanical and error laden. Again I reference what i saw across the way with Collingwood and a few steps across the bridge on Punt road corner. These other lots seemed sharper and switched on. So why are they different ? Neelds pedigree/history shows he CAN coach and PREPARE teams. Alas at Melbourne he, so far , is an abject failure. The first year I'll give him. This year no such allowances, not from me. Honeymoon over, its down to brass-tacks. How can they all ( but a few) be as a group so utterly pathetic. They can play, all of them, we know this, but fire up ?? Any spark was simply conspicuous by its absence. Its like someones cast a spell ( or rather a pall ) upon them. its like a rocket that failed to launch, all but sitting motionless on its pad. I can only hope this Sat-night something goes BOOM. or quite frankly I wont bother for the rest of the season. Hell, if the players cant be stuffed, why should I.McLardy should you read this, just keeps them lips shut mate. Ive followed this team through thick and thin , and now the non-existant years but theres more to life that football and theres certainly better ways to spend time , money and emotional input than to suffer a 1000 deaths each and every bloody week. I wouldnt mind being on their money, to only give bugger all.. A good lurk if you can get a gig like this. If i was being employed ( contracted) Id have been cut loose by now. If I was employing id have given marching orders to many. It just isnt good enough I dont want to hear coaches or players bumbling through pressers anouncing to all and sundry that they havengt got a clue, lest I take them at their word !! Now just to make it easier on these unenlightened i will give you a clue as to why you played like sh!t. Its because you obviously dont give one !! Well certainly not enough. I dont even want to hear about playing for the jumper etc. I dont care really. THey can be mercenary for all I care, just as long as they do what they are there to do. ...play football and play it to a competive ( winning ) standard. Mark, if youre at a loss after this weeks game then step aside. Watts , if you also still are none the wiser , quit. Ive backed these and many over their respective journeys as being capable and part of a resurgence but maybe Ive simply got it bare-arsed wrong.. I havent given up hope. Sometimes its just an element to ones thinking that can hold you back or perplex you. A story ( true one as well ) During Cold war the Russians Foxbat fighter was contructed of rather low tech steels and alloys. Its avionics were crude by Western standards. It flew rings around anything the Americans or Euros cared to put up against them. This had US-Allies confounded. They had tested the known metals on countgelss occasions all resulting with similar data. These planes simply ought not fly that way...so why. Only many years later, even after the US got hold of a (borrowed ) Foxbat after an Eastern pilot defection , they had a chance to ask one of th senior Rusky designer who also later defected..Why? We tested it, how can it do these things. The Russian replied with a question. How and wherfe did you test it? The Americans though, then responded...at our labs and testing facilites !! Ahhhh !! replied Russian....where ?? Still perplexed the Americand thought hard.. Until one day it clicked. Though tested at the Pasadena Propulsion labs, then the most advanced in world , they had over looked one very simple but important quality to this. The answer to the Russians question of where ? It was tested at sea level. The Russians had stumbled upon how steel and all metals act differently at altitude and accompanying parameters. On the ground a Foxbat was junk.... at 20-30000 ft it had no superior. So here in lies a lesson. You can have al lthe best ingredients and theories but its worth Jack ( except Viney lol ) unless you get the context and combinations right We obviously havent If they havent already I suggest to the team they scrap everything they think they know...and start afresh. Use what is undisputable but dont be affraid to think outside the box, for currently we are all in one..... a pine one !!

the fan reacted rpfc.. magner unwittingly started. He wasnt playing yesterday but he is part of the same list, he is for all intents still participant, especially when unwittingly fuelliing a fire, a fire waiting to explode. If he couldnt be at least aware of the predicament all of Melbourne were in then hes none too clever

thats not quite whats it about,...unlike you to miss the point

rpfc...in many respects Magner instagated his own mess by broadcasting a poorly thought out pic. If he isnt aware of this , he ought to be made so. Im many respects ppl werent stalking, just reacting to what they saw as a provocation. welcome to media 2013 style

nothing do-ers do. talkers talk theyd all be wiser ( and more respectful ) to just not comment and work harder. They arent coming from a position of strength here

we dont talk of that Jumper here...lol

try reading the thread point being the only context needed was there in the OP !! Magner bought in... eos