Wrecker45

Are you part of his paid PR team that went a long way to costing him his job? None of us outside the coaches box know how brilliant technically he is or isn’t. But Melbourne’s structures this year and even last don’t seem to work at the mcg which happens to be our home ground and where the gf is played. He has to take some responsibility for that. I doubt very much he will end up a senior coach

Whilst true he played forward well last season, then got switched back, then got dropped for the final against west coast. Like Hunt this year was playing well forward. He seems to be the only player on our list that can run towards goal, turn on a dime and lead back to the player with the footy, mark it and allow us to “connect”. A natural forward. Then he gets moved to the backline, then dropped.

The game evolves and teams follow other successful teams. Hawthorn in their prime were skilful and had elite skills all around the ground (until they got Frawley). Keeping possession is a passing phase. We will bounce back next year and our brand of football will be hard at the contest with a defence that intercepts everything and then repels. Other teams will copy us.

They all have one aim. Past players, administrators and board members want MELBOURNE to achieve the ultimate success. They all might have different ideas on how to get there but guaranteed when we do they will all be drinking out of the same Cup.

Petracca is a fatter version of Colin Sylvia.

I agree with you and think the history and heritage of the MFC is important. You will get posters on here who hate bringing back any past players because they think it is part of some “old boys club”. For the most part they are miserable posters and don’t understand the importance of networking. It would be far easier if we have had some success to build respect for past players coming back to the club and then having a positive influence in the rooms. I’m hoping Ooze could be the one. Without the ultimate onfield success at Melbourne, he is a fan favourite, one of our best players in 30 years and has achieved success strategically under the best coach since Norm Smith.

The difference is every Australian cricketer idolised Waugh and Ponting. They all grew up barracking for Australia and wanting to play for Australia. The reality is most of our current playing list don’t hold Neitz, Green and Wiz in the same esteem as we do on demoland.

It’s hard to see sometimes.

I liked Dom Tyson and didn’t like your attack on me for defending him. You were proven correct on DT. Your footy insight seems good albeit negative. I wonder if you are just a negative person in general and would be off the mark if you barracked for Hawthorn or are insightful. We’ll see when we win the premiership next year ?

The final siren sounding in the GF will be my highligh. Perhaps overshadowed by the 10, 9, 8.., countdown on news years eve. Bring on next year.

Glass half empty - why would he have no improvement? The year before when he did a full pre-season he came 3rd in the Brownlow.

How about we draft best available rather than race based recruiting.

You create a toxic culture by doing the wrong thing by your staff. Perception is important. We on demoland are all passionate supporters and expect the players to play for the jumper. They need a reason to. Winning is important but it can be short sighted. Carlton sold the farm to get Judd to win a few games. How did that work out for them?

Jones is not in it for the money and has no affection for the Gold Coast. Why would he make himself some tradeable commodity? He has never been a leader by tongue it is all on field. Lead by example and his best footy is behind him. His leadership doesn’t work with an aging body. The idea he would go to another club is ridiculous.

I have a very good theory on why indigenous players have freakish kicking ability, that I can back with scientific research. I’m waiting for Yze to come back before I approach the club with it. He was kickicking coach at the greatest kicking team ever. Yze come back.

A winning culture takes precedence over winning a single game. Some sentiment is culture building.

You can’t trade Jones. I note in the herald sun today all 5 pundits had Hodge not only in the best team of the last 20 years but all 5 had him captain as well. Hodge left Hawthorn a legend with nothing more to give Jones is a warrior of Melbourne and stood by us. As a leader he hasn’t achieved. He can’t leave to pass on his wisdom because his wisdom hasn’t achieved anything at Melbourne. All he has is loyalty but we need to respect that.

The Hogan deal was unique. He is/was a unique talent but had off field issues bubbling away in the background and an injury ravaged history. The presser wasn’t a bluff Bell was genuinely walking away but in the end MELBOURNE wanted to do the deal Hogan wanted to do the deal, Freo needed a forward and players like Hogan don’t fall in your lap very often.

He lost it when he lost his mullet. Grow it back and i’d consider.

Ooooze

I think most on here couldn’t care less about the romantic notion of him coming home and would be more concerned about getting someone who has worked closely with Clarko. But his ties to Melbourne are what could draw him back. I went on the Daniher Drive last year to raise money for MND and Oooze was there with a host of other past players including Neitz. I can tell you the bond is strong.

You can’t trade Oliver. I do believe every player is tradeable for the right price. It’s just no club can afford him / offer a realistic trade. Viney is father son that addressed leadership issues from the moment he arrived and drives standards across the club. He is feared by opposition when his body holds up. Brayshaw is a favourite of mine and I think his kicking misfortune is more to do with what is ahead of him ie. our structures than his poor use. Of the 3 only Brayshaw could be traded and that is doubtful with his concussion issues meaning we wouldn’t get what a player with his output deserves. One thing often neglected in these threads is the lack of players wanting to leave MELBOURNE. We wanted Hogan out and had to push Watts out kicking and squealing. List management has many facets but keeping key personal is vitally important if not the most important factor. Particularly, in the age of free agency where you can lose or gain serious talent for nothing but salary cap space.

I’d do it just for Goodies press conferences. We’d “transition” from not being able to connect to not being able to convert.

I’ve heard bulldogs are in to him and have offered him more midfield time. Not sure how credible.

i didn't watch