Gorgoroth

We must do what Hardwick has done at Richmond and cut as many as we can both this year and next. I expected an average year but with some hope, all this year has shown me is after so long I'm starting to not care.

I think this is crap, no team would offer a 25 year old 7 years

Disgraceful act, deserves weeks and I hope he gets it. I reckon he will get two down to one. Disgusting thing to do, and if this happened to a Melbourne player I'd be furious.

You can't shine [censored] and that is what Neeld is trying to do. I'm over it as much as the next bloke, but I try and hold back and let Neeld have this draft to cut some deadwood and add some new players and I will judge them after a second preseason. Mission did say we were 2 years behind elite fitness and unlike Essendon we did not over push our players.

Ha ha, I was wondering where I went wrong

So are you saying that I should use a possessive apostrophe at the end of the word pickles when saying "good luck pickles!"

Actually quite a good article, as some one who broke his hip in 4 spots in 08, I understand recovery from hip complaints. Good luck pickles!

Yep, don't try to make sense on a message board at 6:30am

No, I meant that from a gold coast point of view who rate him very highly, I should have been clearer, I would not trade Jones for him. Prob not even tapscott who I like even tho skill wise Caddy would be better.

What I love about trade threads is how people think the opposition clubs are idiots, that or they live in imagination land. GCS would not give us Caddy for tappscot. to get Caddy we would need to give pick 4 or Jones. And even Jones may not get the deal done.

Nope, that pretty much took him from the verge of a star at that point to a good solid player

Jamar was a huge loss. We were smashing them forward with Stef as a target, our spread was actually good for once and we were killing Freo at uncontested ball which we never win.

Some class and poise and we win even with the i njuries. Can't fault the effort.

I'm sure any other number one pick would chop his foot off and play on a stump.

Viney will not go at pick 24, we will have to get him pick 3, will be a miracle if we don't. I do not know why so many posters thing we can "deal" with a club or they wont risk taking him, or he will happily got to GC/GWS and then come to us two years later.

Our skills are atrocious. Period.

Let's hope Bate has good kids cos he wont offer us much for the rest of his time at Melbourne (how ever long that is)

Sack the skill coaches. Sack Royal, our mod set ups are very very poor. They need to fine players who miss targets when under no pressure. For supposed elite footballers they can't handball nor kick.

Moloney is Not the sort of impact player a sub usually is. This will be interesting

Bradley...... Seriously....... I'd rather miller back if we are going down the path of recruiting hack forwards, at least he brings Mia along with him.

Yeah good idea, try and make a kid wait another year to follow his dream so we can take other kids and they can play instead of him.... I know what I would say.

So why the hell is Watts on HBF getting led away from the play when we can't take a grab forward?

We're going to get flogged :/

We should not get rid of our first pick, mid first round for Boak, ok I'll go with that, anything in top 10, no way.

Will be hard to do that next year while he is coaching Carlton.