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So I've been told to be more positive and we'll give this a crack: - Trac played a reasonable game. Battled hard all day, in fact he looked like our only proper midfielder - May actually played a decent game I thought. Saved at least 2 certain goals. - Salo needs more games but he put on some ripper tackles. - Not Rivers best game bit still had good moments. Our most improved player so far this year. We're a good team and it may not seem like it right now but I just know we can beat Carlton if we put our minds to it! Stay positive and anything is possible.

That's about right. Also cancel Christmas.

The thing is THBT, you and BDA have made very sensible posts just now. but people are shouting down these kinds of comments and wondering why we'd even dare bring up the fact that the team could have been just a slight bit overrated. People can tell us to be positive and that's great, we are 7-4 but we've been poor on the road and just lost to a mid range team at the G. We've had our North, Hawthorn, West Coast bloopies and still have a very tough back end of the season. Another few losses and top 4 is a real stretch, if people want us to be happy about that then they can please themselves. I agree on form right now we are about top 6 at best. Probably don't have that extra to challenge for top honours.

This is true, we've got a target on our back every week now. Means we have to bring our absolute best which isn't always possible. I'm not going to go all simplistic and say that they've lost the hunger and stuff like that. But we have got to find a way to become the hunters again. (Will help once we get a Hunter back)

The two tall backline is really not working. If we were much better at ground level it would be a risk worth taking but we're giving up a bit there. Having said that, far from the worst aspect of our game today.

I appreciate the thread from Bobby but I find the people who sit back and wait to attack the people who show frustration on here quite obnoxious. It's like they're secretly hoping for us to lose so DL goes into meltdown and they can gaslight posters who actually care about the game and this club, making themselves look really high and mighty in the process. It's frankly pathetic, we might care and say things we don't 100% mean in the moment but we aren't stupid and idiotic maniacs and you aren't better than us.

I felt like today went against everything we had trained for in pre season and reverted back to everything that got us to here but won't get us to there. The quick ball movement and trying to get through the middle was gone and we reverted to kicking sideways and trying to play down the wings. We sent long balls onto T-mac's head and it was out of there pretty quickly. When they kick a long ball to a pack on the wing or the middle you'd better hope it doesn't get out to the back because it's that point we are on the back foot defending in transition and we are usually screwed. We're slower to react, ground balls are pounced on much faster from the opposition, not sure if this is coaching, hunger or execution but it's there. How many times can we use the line "We weren't that bad with our output, the other team just turned up and outworked our butts off!" Some of the skill errors today by hand and foot were embarrassing. I've been saying for weeks that we slip way too many tackles in the middle of the park and this was on show today. I don't want to be shown the tackle stat that we won, in critical areas opposition players are bouncing their way off our tackles far too often. The problems are not easily fixable and I haven't mentioned the forward line because I also feel if we tidied this other stuff up the Forward setup wouldn't be as much of an issue.

People should ease off the postgame thread venting. If it entertains you then I'm glad because at least you're getting something out of today. I'm not gonna apologise for ranting a bit in what should be a safe haven. You're not losing time or money over it.

Is this thread code for "Is Goodwin the right guy?"

Yeah I'd say there's a 5 out of 7 chance I'd agree with that.

Deal.

Strangely enough I've actually agreed with most of what you've said tonight. We are in a position where we need to find the next gear and so far it has been left wanting.

I'm just hoping we get it right in the back end. Still time to turn it round and hopefully some other teams have their slip ups.

It's almost the final frontier to play it down.

Was he in The Little Rascals?

6. Petracca 5. Gawn 4. Brayshaw Nah, nah I'm sorry I can't go on.

If only I wasn't 3rd last in my tipping comp BBP!

I gave him one single clap on his first possession. Am I fired?

People do that all the time in my workplace the day before a public holiday. "You've done so well today you can have tomorrow off" A real dad joke organisation haha.

Just wasn't one of his better days. Really whiffed that set shot too

I had no confidence at all kicking into this forward line today. I really felt we needed a lucky flick off a pack to have any chance of scoring. I don't know what we do about it though, there aren't many more levers to pull here. Getting Kozzie into the middle to give us a better look at the middle robs Peter to pay Paul at them moment. Chandler can't seem to get near it, I really don't know the answers right now for this.

A good take. Gee that 5% we're lacking is hurting us right now though.

Yep, been saying it for a few weeks now. But hey, I'd hate to be an "I told you so" guy for having an opinion.

Little harsh Titan and I do resent being told that all my posts attack other Demonlanders. I've seen and been on the receiving end of much worse attacks from yourself to be honest. I'm not attacking anyone personally and am simply questioning some pretty useless statistics that are brought up lately to make people feel better about a team that all of a sudden can't score. As you said there is plenty to discuss though and am happy to do that.

But hang on, aren't we the highest scoring team in the comp? Can't wait for someone to bring that little gem of wisdom up.