Roost It

Aren't you the same clown who thought Newton could play at AFL level?

Basically a group of mates got together and saved the club from it's spiralling debt. Pretty much every decision regarding improving the club after that was a colossal mistake. They might all be nice guys but if that isn't gross incompetence I don't know what is. Connolly and Scwhab were the epicentre of our problems. That is as clear as day to most. The fact we employed Connolly who wanted to coach us to oversee our new coach was a something the Eltham seconds wouldn't even do. It's called a conflict of interest. Then we drag Schwab into the fold, whilst all the time liaising with Garry Lyon. None of them had experienced a Premiership. At a time when we needed stability and experience at the top we chose poorly and it's been costing us ever since. As for Mclean. Who cares.

We don't tend to do strategies. Just talk it up and then realise what an impossible task turning this clapped out club into anything more than it is.

Not fact but surely the most likely outcome

Passion doesn't make a good operator. Connolly is living proof of that. You can blah blah on about his love for the club, it's just the facts get in the way of any resemblance of someone actually "helping" the club to improve.

Finished

Ron Barassi can go on the Carlton banner

Brayshaw and Lever I would guess

Chris Connolly did far more harm to the club than Mclean did.

It'd be the only way we'll make the top 4 in the next 100 years

Watts Scully Trengrove Blease Strauss Morton Cook Tapscott Maric Toumpas Gysberts Each and every one a very high or high pick who has or will (Toumpas) be looked back upon as a terrible pick. We can blame injuries, development, whatever you like. The fact remains not one of them is an above average footballer, Many are down right ordinary. That's not bad recruiting it's an absolute disgrace. The people responsible make the whole human race look stupid. We have so many plodders it's hard to imagine us ever being good again.

17th 5 wins 75.3%

Our last left field high picks Gysberts Maric Strauss Cook Morton Oh lord give us those picks again. That's 5 top 20 picks who are all duds, all of them. Hard to believe but we make Richmond's recruiters look first class. Noclub has ever destroyed an already poor list like us. Does anyone else sense my current dose of negativity around this club?

We might even win a game or 2 Not a bad midfield

How can we not have cap room with the list we've got.

Fark all, any other figure is rubbish. We're a club in decline. A terribly poor list, no home, very little money, few supporters, a miserable amount of members and little hope that that will change anytime in the future.Pinning your hopes on this club is not dissimilar to Tony Abbott pinning his and the countries hopes on coal. Wrong bet at the wrong time.

Bottom 3 5-7wins

2015 Comes down to whether Viney, Tyson, Salem, Hogan, Watts, Howe, Jones, Vince can all improve again and play the full year. We are still very thin for high end talent and need these guys to really stand up. Can't see us finishing out of the bottom 3 which should give us currency for a free agent next year and a solid draft pick. The next 2 drafts are crucial. If we don't get 2 200 game A graders with picks 2 and 3 this year we're screwed. We simply don't have enough talent. Until the likes of McKenzie, Terlich, Jones, Evans, Grimes and co are off the list we will struggle to beat any decent in form opposition.

There's no point screwing GWS when we are going to want to deal with them for the next few years as their kids keep coming home.

Not to mention we'll either have picks 2 and 3 or we'll trade for A graders. How is our list going to worse again?

Do whatever it takes. There's maybe 4 players on our list who I wouldn't trade, Watts isn't one of them

Anything to make us better. Would prefer to off load Grimes for pick 12

Salem, JKH and Barry to improve to become best 22 players Trengove to play 22 games and recapture early years form Gawn to finally step up Viney, Vince and Tyson to go again Gartlett to recapture form Frost and Merrett to become top 22 players Dangerfield or on experienced quality mid and one top line kid from the draft Terlich. McKenzie,and co. to become backup players at Casey Grimes to improve disposal and decision making Jones to play even better but not win the B & F Hogan to kick 45 goals Very few injuries If all that happened we could sneak into the 8

Any Melbourne fan who wouldn't take gartlett cheaply seriously over rate our list. he's a walk up start. He'll have Hogan and Dawes to crumb too. You need to remember that Carlton pretty much relied on him and betts for 2 years. Happy to make that happen for Blease and or pick 50 plus

I started a thread but didn't see this one so I've added this There's only 1 reason I followed Melbourne as a kid and that reason was Robbie Flower. My Mum and her friends met at the footy nearly every Saturday to knit, gasbag and watch Robbie play. They grew up when Melbourne was a powerhouse but were passing on a club to me that had had it's heart ripped out in 1965. Ron Barassi is remembered by many as the greatest player to ever pull on the red and blue. Bollocks, Robbie Flower is. Barassi played in Premierships like we have hot dinners, ably supported by a cast of champions. He then left, unheard of at the time and a move that sparked the destruction of our once proud club. Do I blame him for that, a little but I mainly blame a board so shortsighted and so far up their own importance that they would let this happen. Anyway enough of my ramblings on events long gone and back to what saddens me so much today. That Robbie could be gone is beyond sad. It's heartbreaking for all footy people but his family aside it's particularly heartbreaking for a club that has had to mourn so much. Troy Broadbridge, Sean Wight, Jim Stynes, tanking. players leaving, mounting losses, dwindling relevance, not to mention a failed merger attempt. Surely this was enough! Now we wake up on Saturday without our greatest club Champion, a man who epitomised what football used to be about. He played with grace, an unbelievable grace. He was quick, evaded trouble like no other player, could run but the thing I remember the most was he could mark. Boy, could he mark that ball. His lean arms would reach toward the heavens and he would pluck that ball down, 1 firm and graceful grab. More often than not before he had landed he was off, gliding down the MCG wing right in front of me driving the ball forward in the hope that a goal would amount. In those days it rarely did but not to matter we had Robbie and he had his wing. Then in 1987 the unthinkable occurred. We made the finals, thanks largely to not just his exploits, including 5 glorious goals in the last round at The Whitten Oval, surely my happiest day as a Melbourne supporter.But also because of his presence. We did "it" for Robbie. The whole club and it's supporters lifted for the man. He inspired us to believe and we did. Then that kick by Gary Buckenara that ended his career and all our hopes and dreams. Who of us hadn't imagined Robbie holding up The Premiership Cup that year. The MCG ablaze in red and blue and Robbie standing their with those arms holding all of us up toward the Heavens. RIP Robbie, you will be sorely missed