Go the Biff

That's the heart of it. They've become what we were in our glory days of the '50's and '60's I don't hate Hawthorn. I admire and respect them and a lot of my favourite non-Melbourne players over the years have been Hawks Their supporters though - for the most part - give me the sh!ts. I knew about 3 of them growing up and now the bandwagoners are everywhere. If ever someone tells me they barrack for Hawthorn I always ask who their first team was. Add to that the fact that Glenferrie Oval used to be Range Rover Central and I'm pretty sure that the overwhelming majority of snow-goers are "Hawthorn barrackers". I wonder if my mum and her Demon mates were as smug as those pricks back in our heyday.

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Agreed. I understand our interest in him. I can't however understand his interest in us. He's signing on to a gig at Casey

I thought he'd signed for another four years after his initial 6 year contract. I'd suspect he'd be well compensated but nowhere near the level of his original deal. Unlikely to be a salary cap dump option. Maybe he went somewhere to just check out the facilities while he's been injured

Count me in again Simple and fun comp this. As well as being a lot more challenging than it looks to pick up points. Get on board ! Steelers Titans Bengals

Would have loved to see him play a final in red & blue. Hope he feels he's accomplished what he set out to achieve when he decided to join us. He & Crossy in particular have been immense when it came to turning the club around on field. So glad he got to play his 100th game for us. Thanks Bernie

He'll have played too many games. I believe it's under 21 years old and less than 10 games at the start of the season

Agreed. Perfectly weighted. He then went and replicated it early in the third quarter with his pass to Gawn which set up our first goal of the second half. Two kicks of note !

It looked better on TV than it did from behind the goals. Bit of a floater that seemed to dip at the goal at the last second. Great result for him though. He'll be ramming them through from 50 on a regular basis next year

It's like the penny has dropped with him. His positioning and decision making since his return has improved out of sight. I can't recall him getting caught in no man's land in recent times which was my biggest criticism of him. In full flight he does remind me of a couple of old blasts from the past. Gary "Crazy Horse" Cowton and our own Russell "Rhino" Richards. One was a bloody good player. The other could have been

I can go back to the '70's. Most of the best midfielders I've seen for us are wingers. Flower, Johnson, Alves & Tingay chief among them. To use an old term the best centreman / ruck rover types (which is the category I put Oliver in for the purpose of comparison) are IMO Viney and for a couple of years Brian Wilson. Better than both of them was Greg Wells. You can argue that he hasn't gone past those three yet but we are reflecting on their careers and he's played just over 50 games. I believe that by the time he chalks up 100, the question won't need asking. He'll be a mile in front The Jedi reference is good - even as recently as the last 3 weeks he's done something in each game that's left me gobsmacked. His ball control at pace is unbelievable

This is true. He's been resolute in his belief in where MFC are heading, even when the "fail to beat a top 8 team" heat was on us. Given some of the references he's made this year, I suspect he's studied our recent rebuilds, both failed & the current promising one and will apply some of those lessons as he tries to rebuild Carlton. A challenge in which I wish him absolutely no success.

In the 3 years after crossing from Carlton he's kicked roughly 40, 30 and 40 goals for us Then 2018 comes around & he's going like a busted arse - although has still kicked nearly 20 goals He's just turned 29 and appears to still have his pace It's be well worth doing some work to find out what the hell went wrong before firing him out of the cannon. We're not exactly overcrowded with true small forwards

Yep, that's queue I need to line up in as well

WTF ?????

Real leadership and brains would have addressed the lack of two way running allowing the Swans to waltz the ball up the ground with chip kicks & uncontested marks. Or would maybe have pushed AVB back to the square so Allir stopped ripping us across half back. Or realising Heeney was their mop up man in the last quarter & manning him up. And so on and so on.......... Usually like your contributions Rono but this is just a pizz poor opportunistic slap at Lewis. But you go ahead and worry about the last minute of the game. I'm far more concerned by what happened in the 99 minutes prior

Pretty sure it's a coaches award, not a mum's award. Gaff was one of the best on ground & instrumental in setting up the win. Before the incident. He will get a penalty, likely severe and he will deserve it Doesn't deserve the crucifixion that's been going on in the last 24 hours bit no doubt it will continue

Might be robbing Peter to pay Paul but would you consider Fritsch in this role ? He's listed as 81 kg and 188 cm as opposed to MacCartin 82 kg and 192 cm

Used to love watching & listening to him when he took the defensive group for training & drills. Was spewin' when he left.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder........ or the longer you're out, the better you were

Thought of you as soon as he said it. It's a [censored] disgrace that he's still doing it after this long in the AFL system

Effort fine Umpiring deplorable Unfortunately we'll never be more than a run of the mill side until our forwards get separation from each other and our mids start looking for targets. Bombing it in to a clump of forwards continuously is playing into the defenders hands. Surely this can't be the way our coaching staff train the team to play Even more disappointing, our two captains lead the charge of usual suspects in this department. Dumb. So dumb. We should have had the game in our keeping at half time

Saved his job by about 2 and a half minutes

Norf have been rabbiting on about their "war chest" for the past couple of years. Saints would have e fair bit of breathing space in their cap post Reiwoldt & Montagna

Change of personnel and change of role. WCE have lost their two main clearance players from last year in Priddis and Mitchell to retirement. So Gaff is one of those filling that gap. Agree he is not lightning but he runs both ways from pocket to pocket and does so relentlessly