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Looked at the two sides tonight. Can anyone point out since our flag in 2021 a Rankine, Dawson, Keays, Cumming, Keane, Peatling, Cameron, Smith, Stengle, Danger or Henry etc we have recruited from other teams. I will add Nibbler as he has set up 5 goals in the first half. That seems to be a big issue for us, as Sharp is the only one I can see in our side from another club post 2021 and once again he is not the quality of the players named above and they are only two of our opposition clubs.

Don’t think Jeans ever repeated it. He had plenty of his own original sayings. I think he was famous for saying “there are three stages of football, we have it, they have it, or it is in dispute”.

That was John Kennedy Snr.

The luck in footy. Lever goes out for 2 months, for what we thought was a 1 week ankle injury. Stewart returns against us, to control the Cotton Ons backline and then pulls out tonight sick.

That's true, but you have to at least try and have some selection integrity. We have players in our forward line who are in terrible form. He kicked 5-2, missed two sitters and dropped a mark 20 out straight in front so should have kicked 8. We went after Wade Dersen last year, who will be 24 in two months, is 7 cms shorter then Fullarton and hasn't played a single AFL game yet.

The 3 mus”cat”eers JUH, Smith and Stengle.

Could he bring his Coach with him?

The media has gone mental on Tracc showing emotion after the Cats game, imagine what they would do to us if we got JUH after the Smith, Tracc and Oliver sagas.

That is not really fair, to call the Coach a liar over Lever's injury.. Goody could have been told he was hopefully right to go. Lever could have still had discomfort and it was decided he couldn't push through it, or it would be a problem continually, or he needed surgery to fully get rid of the issue, or a number of other scenarios.

As I said to mates before the season, if we have good luck with injuries, we should have a good year. Yep.

So what happened to Toby Greene tunneling Owies, flipping him over and landing on his head? As dangerous an act as you could see and enormous potential to cause injury. Not a word anywhere and no penalty.

If we were 0-12 I think plenty would be gone. I like every Dees fan, is hoping we start a winning sequence this saturday.

Goody won’t be sacked during the season, it ain’t happening. He might not see out his last year, which will be a “mutual” decision of course.

Agree. It wasn’t a matter of quantity over quality as another poster said, it was foregoing using picks on recycled nqr players from other clubs and instead taking more players in drafts who had the chance to develop and become good players. The cattle as you could call them. Targeting specific needs players here and there is fine, but not at the detriment of losing fast skilful youth. Obviously you can’t fill a team with top 20 picks, but that is where cunning list management comes in. What picks were Max, Tom Mac, Rivers, McVee, etc. Obviously later picks have a statistically lower success rate and that is where you have to be smart in what you do. I banged on here on DL relentlessly to get Treacy and/or Meek ( who weren’t regular Freo players at that stage ) added to the LJ deal. Maybe it wasn’t possible but i would love to know if we tried. Many of us wanted to keep JJ and Bedford instead of others. JT and TL have been good generally, but they have room for improvement as well. Just as a side note, Langford was on the handball on the Sunday Footy Show and on his wrong hand missed the entire target twice and scored 14 in 6 handballs. He looked totally embarrassed. He will be a good player, but absolutely no skill on the wrong side. Sound like anyone else on our list with a father at another club?

IF they went, Kozzie and Tracc are still high value, as to a flag contender they could make the difference. Clarry with his high contract, poor disposal and baggage, is probably now in low demand. Our FD or a new Coach might have some hard decisions to make.

This one is far worse, as Greene looked at Owies before tunnelling him and then Owies is completely upended, landing on his head. This was extremely dangerous. Greene could have pulled out. Now the old boys are saying “what could Toby have done”? Pulled out for a start. This is the difference in the media. Fritta canned and people looking for a suspension and with Toby, trying to get him off.

He was suspended on the injury result and if it wasn’t concussion, might have got off.

You answered your own post, concussion.

Just had a quick look at a few players. Humphries Geelong pick 63 Sam De Koning 19 Tom De Koning 30 Zach Merrett 26. Couple of Irish boys at cats. Tom Stewart mature age player in a suburban league. Here is the 2021 draft as an example after pick 20. 21 Matthew Johnson Fremantle Subiaco WAFL ←Gold Coast (priority pick) 22 Josh Goater North Melbourne Calder Cannons NAB League 23 Sam Butler Hawthorn GWV Rebels NAB League ←Collingwood (2020) 24 Toby Conway Geelong Geelong Falcons NAB League ←Fremantle←Collingwood←Gold Coast 25 Mitch Knevitt Geelong Geelong Falcons NAB League ←Western Bulldogs (draft)←Adelaide 26 Connor MacDonald Hawthorn Dandenong Stingrays NAB League 27 Jesse Motlop Carlton South Fremantle WAFL 28 Tyler Sonsie Richmond Eastern Ranges NAB League 29 Sam Banks Richmond Tasmania Devils NAB League ←Collingwood←Fremantle 30 Judson Clarke Richmond Dandenong Stingrays NAB League ←St Kilda (2020) 31 Brady Hough West Coast Peel Thunder WAFL 32 James Willis Geelong North Adelaide SANFL ←Greater Western Sydney (2020)←Essendon (2020) 33 Mitchito Owens St Kilda Sandringham Dragons NAB League Next Generation Academy selection (Japanese descent), matched bid by Sydney, used picks 48 and 54 [140] 34 Matthew Roberts Sydney South Adelaide SANFL 35 Paul Curtis North Melbourne Western Jets NAB League ←Western Bulldogs (draft)←Geelong (draft)←Greater Western Sydney (2020) 36 Jake Soligo Adelaide Eastern Ranges NAB League ←Melbourne←Brisbane Lions (2020) 37 Rhett Bazzo West Coast Swan Districts WAFL ←Sydney (2020)←Port Adelaide (2020) 38 Miller Bergman North Melbourne Dandenong Stingrays NAB League ←Collingwood (draft)←Western Bulldogs (2020) 39 Blake Howes Melbourne Sandringham Dragons NAB League ←Adelaide←Melbourne (2020) 3 40 Corey Warner Sydney East Fremantle WAFL Free agency compensation pick (Hewett) 41 James Tunstill Brisbane Lions East Perth WAFL ←Geelong←Collingwood 42 Josh Fahey Greater Western Sydney Queanbeyan Tigers AFL Canberra Academy selection, matched bid by Western Bulldogs, used picks 47 and 89 [141] 43 Arthur Jones Western Bulldogs Claremont WAFL ←North Melbourne (draft)←Richmond←Gold Coast (2020) 44 Zac Taylor Adelaide Calder Cannons NAB League ←Melbourne (draft)←St Kilda 45 Arlo Draper Collingwood South Adelaide SANFL 46 Alastair Lord Essendon Norwood SANFL 47 Marcus Windhager St Kilda Sandringham Dragons NAB League Next Generation Academy selection (Indigenous), matched bid by Geelong, used pick 57 [142] 48 Flynn Kroeger Geelong Eastern Ranges NAB League ←Brisbane Lions←West Coast (2020) 49 Cooper Murley Collingwood Norwood SANFL ←North Melbourne (draft)←Western Bulldogs (draft)←Carlton←West Coast←Sydney (2020) 50 Garrett McDonagh Essendon Richmond VFL ←Port Adelaide (2020) 51 Oscar Adams St Kilda Glenelg SANFL ←Melbourne (draft)←Western Bulldogs (2020) 52 Harvey Harrison Collingwood North Adelaide SANFL ←Gold Coast←Geelong (2020)←Brisbane Lions (2020)←Melbourne (2020) 4 53 Jai Serong Hawthorn Gippsland Power NAB League ←Melbourne (2020)←North Melbourne (2020) 54 Eric 'Roy' Benning Fremantle Claremont WAFL Next Generation Academy selection (Indigenous) ←Gold Coast 55 Hugh Jackson Port Adelaide North Adelaide SANFL ←Adelaide (2020)←Hawthorn (2020) 56 Dante Visentini Port Adelaide Sandringham Dragons NAB League ←Carlton (draft) 57 Jack Williams West Coast East Fremantle WAFL 58 Lachlan Rankin Sydney Oakleigh Chargers NAB League 59 Jackson Archer North Melbourne Northern Knights NAB League Father–son selection (son of Glenn Archer) ←Melbourne (2020)←Brisbane Lions (2020) 60 Jase Burgoyne Port Adelaide Woodville-West Torrens SANFL Father–son selection (son of Peter Burgoyne) ←Collingwood (2020)←Greater Western Sydney (2020)←Geelong (2020) 61 Luke Cleary Western Bulldogs Sandringham Dragons NAB League 62 Greg Clark West Coast Subiaco WAFL ←Port Adelaide (draft) 63 Charlie Constable Gold Coast Geelong AFL 64 Cooper Whyte Geelong Geelong Falcons NAB League 65 Taj Woewodin Melbourne East Fremantle WAFL Father–son selection (son of Shane Woewodin) So you are quite correct, there are plenty of players outside the top 20 or so picks in the draft each year and it depends what you prioritize and how good your recruiters are.

Maybe they want to keep him as a mate for Wade Derksen in the Giants VFL team.

I have already posted that, so agree with you.

DL is certainly a happy place these days.

I stand to be corrected, but isn't Tim lamb in charge of the List, in respect of TPP and player contracts? I understand It is JT and his Recruiting people, who are in charge of recruiting, being the selection of both draftees and traded in players. Put simply, it is Lamb's job to keep players we want to keep and balance the books and it is Taylor's job to select players we go after.

If you passed him off for adoption the way we dispose, he would be passed into the wrong house.

No, not enough room on DL.