Redleg

Maybe it's now going to be 13, F 1st and North F 2nd and we give them the Bedford pick 43. That's unders for LJ, but that North F 2nd always has trade appeal on draft night. However that would leave us with only one pick inside 54, once Pies get 27, unless I am missing something. Unless as GWS have #3, #12, #15, #18, #19, #44, #61, #63. and will trade Hopper for Soldo and lets say Tiger's 31 pick and GWS who then won't need 31, can give us picks they probably won't use in 31 and 43 for Bedford. That at least would give us 2 x F1 and 2 x F2 for next year's draft. That would be good for next year.

Don' t forget the farm/property he will pick up.

Are you suggesting all of those farms, properties and businesses obtained by Cats players are outside the salary cap? Surely not. People just love Geelong.

So happy for the Cats.

Hopefully we are heavily into someone good for next year and if we also end up with a good draft haul next year as well, then things could get very exciting. If we happen to draft well, with our likely 2 picks this year, it can also be a big bonus to our off season. We are also adding an AA Ruckman this trade period.

But it's probably the best thing we need.

Fascinating behind the scenes conversation.

I think we are relying on a 2021 injury run, which would go a long way to us winning it again.

Not happening.

We would do that wouldn’t we? A 3 pick drop and we keep 27.

Well I suppose the danger is Freo could get 11 for Lobb and give back North F 2nd and Dogs could do that, as only about a 7-8 pick drop and use it next year in a strong draft. We then lose chance at North F2nd.

Thanks Ivan, I must say the points system confuses me.

We are not worried about the PSD, we are just discussing why the deal will go through eventually. I now think we will get North F2 as well as 13 and Freo F1 and have to accept it.

Correct and we know he won’t want to come back and play at North, so it’s a free go at picks by them, in a trade the next year. He would be furious with Freo, as would his manager and other players and managers would be very concerned about committing to Freo.

Why not? At worst they are getting future picks. It’s a smart play. If he puts a ridiculous figure on his head, North complain about draft tampering and the AFL would bend over for them, given their situation, with a new North rule. It would be a way to give them picks, but not as priority picks. He goes on their list and if he stays in WA, they simply trade him the next year. If they don’t, he is an Eagle.

If the picks we swapped were worth pick 14, I wonder why we didn’t just give them to Pies to use in other deals.

He doesn’t have to say it, everyone knows it. North would take him and even if he refused to play, they could trade him the next year and would get likely more than we are being offered atm. LJ wouldn’t want that and so if we can’t do a deal he probably stays for another season and tries again the next year when Bell has left. This may be what makes Freo blink.

Or they have been told it’s only Freo.

But of that list, only LJ and Farmer left when we wanted them to stay.

Cadman will be at North or GWS, end of story.

LJ doesn’t want to go into the PSD, as he will end up at North. I think he would rather come back to us for a year. Tell Freo we do the deal fairly, or he will be coming back to us for a year or longer.

Over all their trades.

Mackie at Geelong doing a Bell/Dodoro and other clubs are getting p-ssed off.

He came on a 4 year contract and has played 3, that leaves 1 year doesn't it?

We gave 2 and 18 for White and 22. White had played 32 games to LJ's 50 and with a flag and rising star and far superior stats all around, LJ is a mile ahead of White at this stage. White wasn't even a regular in the Freo side, playing 32 games in 3 years. We gave them Pick 2 and a 4 pick upgrade, for a far lesser player than LJ , at that stage.