Its Time for Another

Probably waiting to see what we get for Toumpas and Howe. Won't know the total picture until all deals are done. Looks like we are after 3 players who will all command 2nd round picks. So we have to get at least that for Toumpas and Howe for all 3 to go through.

Although not Free Agency the Scully compo was a similar form of compo and we ended up with Hogan and Dawes. So all in all we have to learn to not get so hysterical when no. 1 picks or Free agents walk out on the Club because as you point out compo has so far improved the list. There won't be anymore pick 3's for players like Frawley that's for sure. It looks more and more like that was the AFL's way of giving us the equivalent of a Priority Pick without politically actually giving us one.

It's a mechanism for keeping the strong Clubs strong and the week Clubs week by more easily facilitating the automatic transfer of the best players in the weak Clubs to the strong Clubs without the inconvenience of having to give up anything. It has had the added benefit of trickling down the mentality to non Free Agents so that all players now want to leave the weak Clubs and go to the strong Clubs. Clubs that were weak before the Expansion teams and Free Agency will stay that way from now on and the Clubs that were strong before will stay that way.

Had expected the AFL to have announced they have fixed it by now but alas no. Even if they brought in a rule saying top 4 or even 6 can't get Free Agents, Cats could pick up this lot this year. The problem is Free Agency appears to have changed player's mentality so they now have a sense of entitlement to not care a stuff about the overall comp and just go to wherever they can play Finals. If the AFL don't fix this the Comp is over and the teams that were at the top b4 expansion teams and Free Agency will stay at the top and the one's that were down are going to stay down. Hard to get excited about the future.

Just spoke to a mate who is a sports physio. He said don't be alarmed about patella tendons. According to him better injury for long term recovery than ACL's.

Like your work. Also future picks if necessary.

I don't rate him. Looked out of place in Swans midfield as a weak link in their depth. That unfortunately probably puts him thereabouts with Meilksham, Bugg & Kennedy. No thanks. Slow, not great skills and can make bad decisions. Used to be very reliable but seems to have lost pace and dropped behind a string of younger midfielders at Swans.

What are you trying to say. They are two opposite things. He accepts the deal.........the player having no say. Club can't force a player to go anywhere. If they are contracted they have the right to stay where they are or like Evans last year have their full contract paid out and go in the draft. The Club can't for them to change Clubs. If they agree to a trade then they can be traded but not against their will.

Other than about 8 players on the list I don't mind who goes as long as they are replaced with someone better. Therefore only be happy about him going if someone better comes in. Doubt we'll know the answer until 12pm 22 Oct.

Surely Pies don't have room for both Treloar and now Aish has nominated them. I guess it won't be hard to pick up Kennedy

I'm guessing knowing how impossibly they over value their players that we are prepared to give up our 2nd rounder. Talk about being bent over for a player who has a 2yr ban hanging over his head. Can't imagine them being reasonable and accepting a 3rd rounder which is all he's worth, if that given the potential ban.

This would be gold for the haters on here. Sylvia and Melksham in the midfield. Can't you just see the pages of bile. Hopefully they can be contained to the one thread so the rest of us can ignore.

Good points Bing. Hadn't thought about the previous provisional 6mths. Would be mad not tn take it again straight after last round. I have same thoughts about ban plus I reckon they'll take into account exceptional delays. So they could well be ready by start of the season. Taking the provisional now is a bizarre one as it counts as ban time although apparently they can still train with the club. Didn't they do that last summer. So no real loss. Just can't compete

To put it in perspective it's the same money the Swans are paying Buddy over 9yrs so they are paying him considerably less a year than this offer. We have to accomodate Jesse Hogan who will become the highest paid and most sort after player in the league. A more important player than any midfielder including Danger. If we set the bar at $1.5pa for Danger how would we pay Jesse less.

The figures bandied around by the press rarely end up being accurate. Don't believe for one minute that we'd compromise our salary cap with that sort of money for a mid even if it's Dangerman. Is he worth the same money as Buddy?

Still don't understand why we are taking the risk for a player like him. Ryder & Carlisle even Crameri are very good players probably worth the risk. He's not in that class

I don't think that advice is possible. I know a few involved on the legal side and they aren't saying that anything that would suggest anything other than the hearing will decide that.

But would do wonders for Memberships

How are we going to be feeling if he gets rubbed out for a year or possibly 2. I can't understand why a team in our state would choose to take a gamble like that. Even with him being paid by his old team while he's suspended we have given up a pick, will be a player down and then have a player who hasn't played for 1-2 years. Can't understand why this makes sense for us. On a side note I know the view of their lawyer is there is no new evidence from the original trial and therefore completely confident that they will get off. Says there just isn't the evidence to find them guilty. Personally I don't agree. But either way, why gamble when there is definitely a risk there. We are doing the Dons a favour by reducing the number of players they might lose if they are all suspended. They should bloody be giving us a pick.

Grow up. MFC let him down not the other way around. A series of terrible mistakes by a series of MFC Administrations let all of us down. But no one suffers more than the Full Back who watched for 7 yrs while the ball was delivered to his opponents perfectly by midfields and score assisters under no pressure. How would you feel going to work every day and knowing that doing your absolute best won't stop you from being beaten most times through no fault of your own. Good luck to him. We got Brayshaw with overs compensation. He's going to be a more important player for MFC than Frawley was ever going to be. Sam Frost will probably be a better back than him so we move on.

More interested in hearing about a 6-9 yr deal signed with Hogan. So that leaves two places on the rookie list. You'd have to think that VandenBerg gets elevated. I would have though Harmes has shown enough to be elevated as well. So we'd be looking for 2 rookies next year. Good point suggesting rookying Hunt, so maybe only 1.

Add Mitchell to that. Caught disabling players by kneeing them behind the play and gets a reprimand. Fyfe ended up missing a couple of weeks because of what Mitchell did to him. If he loses the Brownlow by a couple of weeks Mitchell will be responsible. Did the same thing to Tex Walker this year and he had to leave the ground for the rest of the game. Nasty little pot shot at the Essendon players indicating injecting himself. Wonder how he would feel if his Club had done that to him. Rotten, dirty, player. Do you hear him being booed like Goodes is.

Actually it was '97. He got drafted at the end of that year. Had an unbelievable game for Nth Ballarat who won the game. He was everywhere. I remember thinking whoever gets him is going to have a star on their hands and yet he only went for pick 47. Couldn't believe my luck that he ended up at Sydney so I got to watch him playing up here for his whole career. You can argue all you like about why he was made AOTY but obviously he didn't get it for being a footballer, he got it for being a man who fought against racism. He wouldn't have got it without having the profile he gained by being one of the greatest AFL players in history but he also didn't get it for that he got it for his off field work. Why argue about it. Move on. As far as I am concerned the booing of him this year has been the lowest point I have experienced following VFL/AFL over more than fifty years. It's a very sad reflection and indictment on our society. That it grew to the level it did and even continued last night just makes me sad. At least the most divisive PM in Australian history is gone, let's hope things are looking up. Roll on our Grand Final....... Trade Week!

It's a pretty simple equation for me on both of them. If you can get better players in by trading them out do it. If you can't then don't trade them. I have faith in the List Management and Recruiting teams on getting this one right. Eg how happy would you be if it was Howe out for Bennell. Or part of a deal for Prestia or O'Meara. O'Meara is an interesting one. According to that article he has said he's committed to playing out the final year of his contract next year but then is interested in moving to Melbourne in the long term. If you were GC why would you hang on to a 22yr old who has told you he's going to leave in one more year. Aren't you better to trade him out now and get on with recruiting in and training up his replacement. So a deal like that for Howe and perhaps Watts may not be so out of the question.