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Like most, I would prefer that he stays but if we can’t convince him to do so, then his value should be assessed at least at the equivalent of the two first round picks it cost us to get Jake Lever. Terry Wallace has placed Chad Wingard at that level and Hogan is IMO worth more than that. We are facing an interesting month or so ahead.

Yes - they actually favoured Casey in the second half by 17 to 12 but the Hawks still finished well in front on the day. Still, while the umpiring affected Casey’s lead at half time, it was by no means the main or only reason for the defeat. KC’s report later today will cover the player stats.

And just to rub salt into the wounds, North Adelaide (the 19 players on the ground team) best the SANFL Redlegs Norwood in their Grand Final today.

The umpiring against Casey has been ordinary in every game I’ve seen them play this year but you have to live with it unfortunately. There’s nobody to complain about it to at this stage. Another interesting stat is the tackles. Casey have had 39 which is more than what Melbourne got all game in Perth.

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER (after week three of the finals) ROUND ONE 1. Carlton 2. Gold Coast 3. St Kilda 4. Brisbane 5. Fremantle 6. Western Bulldogs 7. Adelaide 8. Essendon 9. Port Adelaide 10. North Melbourne 11. Geelong 12. Sydney 13. Greater Western Sydney 14. Hawthorn 15. Adelaide (received from Melbourne) 16. Richmond 17. Collingwood 18. Gold Coast (received off West Coast) ROUND TWO 19. Adelaide (received from Carlton) 20. West Coast (received from Gold Coast) 21. Port Adelaide (received from St Kilda) 22. Brisbane 23. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle) 24. Carlton (received from Western Bulldogs) 25. Carlton (received from Adelaide) 26. Gold Coast (received from Essendon) 27. Port Adelaide 28. North Melbourne 29. Gold Coast (received from Geelong) 30. Sydney 31. Essendon (received from Greater Western Sydney) 32. Hawthorn 33. Melbourne 34. Richmond 35. Sydney (received from Collingwood) 36. West Coast ROUND THREE 37. Adelaide (received from Carlton) 38. Gold Coast 39. North Melbourne (received off St Kilda via on-trades) 40. Brisbane 41. Gold Coast (received from Fremantle) 42. Western Bulldogs 43. Melbourne (received from Adelaide) 44. Greater Western Sydney (received from Essendon) 45. Port Adelaide 46. Port Adelaide (received from North Melbourne) 47. Geelong 48. Collingwood (received from Sydney) 49. Greater Western Sydney 50. Hawthorn 51. Melbourne 52. Geelong (received from Richmond) 53. Collingwood 54. North Melbourne (received from West Coast via on-trades) ROUND FOUR 55. Geelong (received from Carlton) 56. Geelong (received from Gold Coast) 57. St Kilda 58. Brisbane 59. Western Bulldogs (received from Fremantle) 60. Western Bulldogs 61. St Kilda (received from Adelaide via on-trades) 62. Essendon 63. St Kilda (received from Port Adelaide) 64. North Melbourne 65. Carlton (received from Geelong) 66. Sydney 67. Greater Western Sydney 68. West Coast (received from Hawthorn via on-trades) 69. Adelaide (received from Melbourne) 70. Richmond 71. Collingwood 72. West Coast ROUND FIVE 73. Carlton 74. Gold Coast 75. St Kilda 76. Brisbane 77. Fremantle 78. Western Bulldogs 79. Adelaide 80. Essendon 81. Port Adelaide 82. North Melbourne 83. Geelong 84. Sydney 85. Greater Western Sydney 86. Hawthorn 87. Melbourne 88. Richmond 89. Collingwood 90. West Coast ROUND SIX 91. Carlton 92. Gold Coast 93. St Kilda 94. Brisbane 95. Fremantle 96. Western Bulldogs 97. Adelaide 98. Essendon 99. Port Adelaide 100. North Melbourne 101. Geelong 102. Sydney 103. Greater Western Sydney 104. Hawthorn 105. Melbourne 106. Richmond 107. Collingwood 108. West Coast

TAC Cup 2018 Dandenong Stingrays 2.1.13 6.2.38 10.7.67 12.8.80 Oakleigh Chargers 3.2.20 3.6.24 6.8.44 11.8.74 Goals Dandenong Stingrays Foot 2 Williams 2 Sturt 2 McDonnell 2 Cahill Bedford Bowman Bayne Oakleigh Chargers Williams 4 Anderson 2 Collier-Dawkins Robertson Ross Bosenavulagi Gasper Best Dandenong Stingrays Hustwaite Frampton Stenning Hamill Fletcher Williams Oakleigh Chargers Rowell Collier-Dawkins Williams Answerth Robertson Westwood

It is - they’re 4.8

Comprehensive 2018 TAC Cup Grand Final Preview

How are the Storm going. I’m bored by this.

Red Rubber Ball was written by Simon & Woodley. It’s performed here by The Seekers - it was also a hit for a mid-1960s American group The Cyrkle.

Terry Wallace has revealed his top 10 players outside the AFL system who clubs should consider recruiting in this year’s draft. I think he erred in omitting Sam Collins of Werribee who I would rank ahead of anyone on this list. Plough’s top 10 potential draftees outside the AFL system Plough’s top 10 state level players (not in any order): Mitch Grigg (Norwood/SANFL) Shane McAdam (Sturt/SANFL) Josh Clayton (Southport/NEAFL) Michael Gibbons (Williamstown/VFL) Ryan Gilmore (Townsville/Gold Coast Academy) Josh Corbett (Werribee/VFL) Sam Sturt (Peninsula Grammar/Victoria) Jye Bolton (Claremont/WAFL) Jordan Morrissey (County Carlow/Ireland) Will Hayes (Footscary/VFL) ... and there are a couple of handy players at Casey who he has overlooked.

Too good a player to ignore if available unless his price tag is ridiculous.

I would be very surprised if Collingwood were to win against Richmond on their showing against GWS. The intensity of their game last week was a few notches below that of the night before and they will need to lift to match it with Richmond.

Dare I say it but no Mitch King either. Feel sorry for the kid but he hasn’t kicked on since his injuries and footy’s a tough industry. Still, as a young ruckman, he will still have opportunities in the future.

19th September, 1964 Neil Crompton (#5) kicks the goal that seals the premiership. Ronald Dale Barassi's last game for Melbourne (and Bluey Adams' too). Hopefully, not much longer to wait for the next one? cccc

I was involved in such a situation in junior football in the early 90s at a time when the rules of the game had just been changed to something close to what they are now. The original rule said if you had 19 players then your entire score would automatically be scrubbed. With the introduction of interchanges, it was recognised that an innocent mistake could be made and therefore the rule was changed to give the governing body (not the field umpire) to decide on the outcome. In the case where I was involved, there had been an innocent mistake by a player who remained on the ground after the three quarter time break for about 3 minutes during which time no scores were recorded. When the count was taken at the behest of the team manager of the opposition side (and not the captain as the rules stated), the umpire took it upon himself to take off the entire score of the team with the extra player. The case went to appeal and the league compromised by taking off a portion of that team's score but the outcome was still wrong. Thankfully, the changed result did not affect the final ladders for the season but a number of officials took their eyes off the objectives of junior football and it was really as if they were playing for sheep stations. In the current situation, the team that offended should have whatever they scored while they had 19 men on the ground deducted from the score.

Anyone notice the Collingwood players celebrating a bit too much?

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER (after week two of the finals) ROUND ONE 1. Carlton 2. Gold Coast 3. St Kilda 4. Brisbane 5. Fremantle 6. Western Bulldogs 7. Adelaide 8. Essendon 9. Port Adelaide 10. North Melbourne 11. Geelong 12. Sydney 13. Greater Western Sydney 14. Hawthorn 15. Adelaide (received from Melbourne) 16. Collingwood 17: Gold Coast (received off West Coast) 18. Richmond ROUND TWO 19. Adelaide (received from Carlton) 20. West Coast (received from Gold Coast) 21. Port Adelaide (received from St Kilda) 22. Brisbane 23. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle) 24. Carlton (received from Western Bulldogs) 25. Carlton (received from Adelaide) 26. Gold Coast (received from Essendon) 27. Port Adelaide 28. North Melbourne 29. Gold Coast (received from Geelong) 30. Sydney 31. Essendon (received from Greater Western Sydney) 32. Hawthorn 33. Melbourne 34. Sydney (received from Collingwood) 35. West Coast 36. Richmond ROUND THREE 37. Adelaide (received from Carlton) 38. Gold Coast 39. North Melbourne (received off St Kilda via on-trades) 40. Brisbane 41. Gold Coast (received from Fremantle) 42. Western Bulldogs 43. Melbourne (received from Adelaide) 44. Greater Western Sydney (received from Essendon) 45. Port Adelaide 46. Port Adelaide (received from North Melbourne) 47. Geelong 48. Collingwood (received from Sydney) 49. Greater Western Sydney 50. Hawthorn 51. Melbourne 52. Collingwood 53. North Melbourne (received from West Coast via on-trades) 54. Geelong (received from Richmond) ROUND FOUR 55. Geelong (received from Carlton) 56. Geelong (received from Gold Coast) 57. St Kilda 58. Brisbane 59. Western Bulldogs (received from Fremantle) 60. Western Bulldogs 61. St Kilda (received from Adelaide via on-trades) 62. Essendon 63. St Kilda (received from Port Adelaide) 64. North Melbourne 65. Carlton (received from Geelong) 66. Sydney 67. Greater Western Sydney 68. West Coast (received from Hawthorn via on-trades) 69. Adelaide (received from Melbourne) 70. Collingwood 71. West Coast 72. Richmond ROUND FIVE 73. Carlton 74. Gold Coast 75. St Kilda 76. Brisbane 77. Fremantle 78. Western Bulldogs 79. Adelaide 80. Essendon 81. Port Adelaide 82. North Melbourne 83. Geelong 84. Sydney 85. Greater Western Sydney 86. Hawthorn 87. Melbourne 88. Collingwood 89. West Coast 90. Richmond ROUND SIX 91. Carlton 92. Gold Coast 93. St Kilda 94. Brisbane 95. Fremantle 96. Western Bulldogs 97. Adelaide 98. Essendon 99. Port Adelaide 100. North Melbourne 101. Geelong 102. Sydney 103. Greater Western Sydney 104. Hawthorn 105. Melbourne 106. Collingwood 107. West Coast 108. Richmond

There have been some talented players in the past to come out of the Amateurs. Mitch Hannan was playing with St Bernards and now is a step away from an AFL Grand Final. Here’s another player who could follow in his footsteps. Ammos star's big season sees recruiters lurking

The TAC Cup Grand Final will be fought out between the Dandenong Stingrays and Oakleigh Chargers. Both easily won their respective preliminary final matches. The potential Demon zone selection Toby Bedford kicked three for the Stingrays. TAC Cup 2018 Dandenong Stingrays 2.1.13 6.3.39 11.7.73 14.11.95 Sandringham Dragons 1.1.7 5.3.33 6.3.39 8.5.53 Goals Dandenong Stingrays Williams 3 Bedford 3 Cahill 2 Sturt 2 Taylor 2 Foot Bayne Sandringham Dragons Mahony 2 Chirgwin 2 King 2 Grey Maginness Best Dandenong Stingrays Hustwaite Hamill Williams Fletcher Bedford Bowman Sandringham Dragons Rendell Worrell Dean Stocker Chirgwin Byrnes AFL Draft Wrap: Toby Bedford stands out against Sandringham TAC Cup 2018 Gippsland Power 0.0.0 0.3.3 0.4.4 3.4.22 Oakleigh Chargers 4.4.28 9.5.59 14.10.94 17.13.115 Goals Gippsland Power Serong 2 Gown Oakleigh Chargers Williams 3 Gasper 3 Day 2 Rowbottom Anderson Collier-Dawkins Answerth Ross O'Neill Bosenavulagi Wraith Rowell Best Gippsland Power Duursma Sparkes Beck Patterson Gown Smith Oakleigh Chargers Ross Ayton-Delaney Rowbottom Wraith O'Neill Rowell

Incorrect. He applied 2 tackles.

Agreed that together with Melbourne’s interest in North Melbourne’s Brayden Preuss, this suggests that both King and Filipovic are on shaky ground.

Agree. The volume was far too loud (reminiscent of the Meatloaf fiasco) and I was disappointed they didn’t fire one of their free Hawks T shirts in my direction because I was feeling lucky.

The Richmond club doctor, their medical and rehab team are the best thing going around in the AFL since sliced bread. Nothing to see there.