Whispering_Jack

I’ve always found the phantom drafts of bigfooty’s Snoop Dog to be interesting, entertaining and informative. As far as this draft is concerned, my feeling is in line with what most of the experts have been saying for a couple of years - this one is strong at the top and goes reasonably deep. With regard to SD’s assessment, he has noted, among other things - * “if a player is an NGA player and played at Champs they can automatically be listed as Cat B players if they miss out in National Draft” * “key themes for me this year are speed, running power, contested ball winning, clean hands and skill”. Some of his key take outs are; * “there is a real shortage of rucks and given only 2 genuine rucks were invited to combine I think some clubs will miss out and you might find them” * “same goes for key forwards. There are very few of real quality and again I think clubs are going to need to do some thinking around how they solve for that”, * “mature age players are in vogue for me. There are a number of high quality ones this year and I expect quite a few to be taken.” SD has even done a mock rookie draft which is a bit much for me. I’m concentrating here on the first two rounds. He has us taking Jez McLennan and Sydney Stack and then matching a bid on Toby Bedford. I don’t think we will be taking Stack - I would prefer Williams who gets taken a few picks later but then I have no idea what our recruiters’ mindsets are. https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/snoop-dog-2018-mock-draft.1208884/ His selections - DAY ONE - ROUND ONE 1 Carlton Sam Walsh / Geelong Falcons / 183cm 2 Gold Coast Suns Jack Lukosius / WWT / 194cm 3 Gold Coast Suns Izak Rankine / West Adelaide / 180cm 4 St Kilda Max King / Sandringham Dragons / 204cm 5 Port Adelaide Ben King / Sandringham Dragons / 202cm 6 Sydney Swans (Matching Bid) Nick Blakey / NSW / 195cm 7 Gold Coast Suns Connor Rozee / North Adelaide / 185cm 8 Western Bulldogs Bailey Smith / Sandringham Dragons / 185cm 9 Adelaide Jackson Hately / Central Districts / 190cm 10 GIANTS Jye Caldwell / Bendigo Pioneers / 184cm 11 Port Adelaide Jordan Clark / Claremont / 182cm 12 GIANTS Chayce Jones / Tasmania / 180cm 13 Geelong Liam Stocker / Sandringham Dragons / 184cm 14 Adelaide Sam Sturt / Dandenong Stingrays / 188cm 15 Fremantle Ian Hill / Perth / 175cm 16 Port Adelaide Riley Collier-Dawkins / Oakleigh Chargers / 191cm 17 Adelaide Zak Butters / Western Jets / 181cm 18 North Melbourne Matching Bid Tarryn Thomas / Tasmania / 189cm 19 Richmond Ely Smith / Murray Bushrangers / 188cm 20 Brisbane Curtis Taylor / Calder Cannons / 186cm 21 Collingwood Matching Bid Isaac Quaynor / Oakleigh Chargers / 178cm 22 GIANTS Xavier Duursma / Gippsland Power / 185cm 23 Western Bulldogs Matching Bid Rhylee West / Calder Cannons / 180cm 24 West Coast Luke Valente / Norwood / 186cm DAY TWO ROUND TWO # 25 GIANTS Matching Bid Kieran Briggs / NSW / 199cm 26 Adelaide Xavier O’Halloran / Western Jets / 187cm 27 West Coast Ned McHendry / Geelong Falcons / 178cm to be named the Captain of Vic 28 Brisbane Matching Bid Connor McFadyen / QLD / 190cm 29 North Melbourne Matching Bid Bailey Scott / QLD / 186cm 30 Melbourne Jez McLennan / Central Districts / 183cm 31 Gold Coast Jacob Kennerley / Norwood / 184cm 32 Collingwood Matching Bid Will Kelly / Oakleigh Chargers / 194cm 33 Melbourne Sydney Stack / Perth / 177cm 34 Gold Coast Fraser Turner / Tasmania / 186cm 35 Fremantle Luke Foley / Subiaco / 188cm 36 Western Bulldogs Bailey Williams / Dandenong Stingrays / 199cm 37 Essendon Tom Joyce / East Fremantle / 179cm 38 Brisbane Thomas Berry / GWV / 186cm 39 St Kilda Zac Foot / Dandenong / 180cm 40 Richmond Will Hamill / Dandenong / 185cm 41 Melbourne Matching Bid Toby Bedford / Dandenong Stingrays / 176cm Very lively small forward who creates a lot of activity around the ball either offensively or defensively. Agile, quick, evasive cability and vision are really good and his clean with his ball use. Can overdo it a bit and can be a bit up and down but when you play that role that can happen.He generally picks the right pathway out of trouble. Will present well and doubt that he will fall through to Melbourne's rookie list. Has spent some time through the middle in games I have watched and looks ok but not sure if has the tank to do it. 42 Swans Jack Bytel / Calder Cannons / 188cm 43 West Coast Matching Bid Jarrod Cameron / Swan Districts / 180cm 44 Swans Jacob Koschitzke / Murray Bushrangers / 196cm

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AFL DRAFT CENTRAL 2018 DRAFT GUIDE

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Er ... Mr. Leg. There is no city called Kent in England or New Zealand. Kent is a county in England.

The ultimate Phantom Draft from Knightmare - AFL Phantom Draft: Rounds 1, 2, 3

Knightmare’s Phantom Draft AFL Phantom Draft: Rounds 1, 2, 3

AFL Draft Central Power Rankings:- Running down from 60 to 46 -> 45 to 31 - > 30 to 16 - > 15 to 1

1986 VFL Round 1 - Richmond vs Melbourne

Correct. In Michael Gleeson’s Age article, The Age AFL to introduce mid-season rookie draft in 2019 he says that in addition to the new mid-season rookie draft the AFL is “also set to allow clubs to add a player to their rookie list during the pre-season if they have a spot available or if they lose a player to a long-term injury or retirement”. This will apply to the period between December 1 and March 15 at which time clubs could place players “on one of three inactive lists: a long-term injury list, a season-ending list or a retired player list”. So you can leave a spot vacant at the drafts to allow yourself time to determine what player you want and you have a few months in which to do it.

I’ve never been able to master a complete understanding of how the bidding system works for f-s/academy picks. Let’s say a club nominates Toby Bedford at 31. Do I take it that if we bid for him, we would have to then give up picks worth the equivalent to the points allocated for pick #31? If so, that would leave us having used 23 & 28, taken Bedford and our next pick becomes 91 or its equivalent?

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A few people have mentioned him and according to this write up in the Leader Newspapers, Melbourne is one of seven clubs to have interviewed him - AFL 2018: Northern Knights Tom McKenzie on radar of seven clubs

Cal Twomey’s October Phantom Form Guide has him taken at 10:- 10 Jordan Clark POS: Half-back Ht 182cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/00 From Claremont/Western Australia Clark is coming with a rush. The West Australian's season gained momentum after winning All Australian honours at the under-18 championships, and he played some solid senior footy for Claremont late in the year to push himself into the top 10 of some clubs' draft boards. He's a good user of the ball off half-back and is given the ball to make things happen, and the former elite junior cricketer finished eighth in the 2km time trial last week.

There’s been plenty of talk about the top 25 prospects but what about 26-50? Here’s Matt Balmer’s latest - 26-50 Power Rankings

Given that Butters comes from the Western Jets can we call him a Western Star?

Why?

Chris Doerre (aka Knightmare) has done an interesting draft needs analysis for ESPN - AFL Draft: Your club's list needs Here's his analysis for the MFC - List needs 1. Classy inside midfielder 2. General forward 3. Relieving ruck Draft picks: 23, 28, 54, 62, 91 Who should they draft? As a medium marking forward, Sam Sturt would be a strong addition to Melbourne's front half at 23. Bailey Williams at 28 would be ideal as a relieving ruckman who has uncontainable athleticism as a marking forward. If one of the Demons' preferred choices in the 20s is unavailable, midfielder Sydney Stack would add further class to the club's engine room. Through their NGA, Toby Bedford will provide speed and pressure through the midfield and up forward.

Should be in the real top 30, possible top 20.

Oh, I see, just disappointing.

I put an asterisk beside those players. It will be interesting to see how having that number of players inside the mix of early selections affects the placement of our picks.

Mr Leg. I hope you’re not going to take that insult lying down.

Here’s Bucky’s list ~ 1. JACK LUKOSIUS Key forward, 194cm, 85kg, Woodville-West Torrens  2. SAM WALSH Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons 3. IZAK RANKINE Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, West Adelaide 4. BEN KING Key forward/defender, 202cm, 85kg, Sandringham Dragons 5. BAILEY SMITH Midfielder, 184cm, 79kg, Sandringham Dragons 6. NICK BLAKEY Forward/midfielder, 195cm, 85kg, NSW-ACT/Sydney Swans Academy 7. TARRYN THOMAS Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, North Launcestonc 8. MAX KING Key forward, 201cm, 84kg, Sandringham Dragons 9. JACKSON HATELY Half-forward, 190cm, 81kg, Central District 10. BAILEY WILLIAMS Key forward/ruckman, 198cm, 95kg, Dandenong Stingrays 11. CONNOR ROZEE Midfielder, 184cm, 72kg, North Adelaide  12. IAN HILL Small forward, 175cm 76kg, Perth 13. XAVIER DUURSMA Midfielder/defender, 185cm, 71kg, Gippsland Power 14. CURTIS TAYLOR Half-forward/midfielder, 186cm, 79kg, Calder Cannons 15. LIAM STOCKER Midfielder, 184cm, 83kg, Sandringham Dragons 16. ZAC BUTTERS Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, Western Jets 17. RILEY COLLIER-DAWKINS Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, Oakliegh Chargers 18. RHYLEE WEST Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, Calder Cannons  19. EDWARD McHENRY Midfielder/small forward, 176cm, 71kg, Geelong Falcons 20. LUKE FOLEY Midfielder, 187cm, 75kg, Subiaco 21. WILL KELLY Key defender, 193cm, 83kg, Oakleigh Chargers 22. XAVIER O’HALLORAN Midfielder, 186cm, 82kg, Western Jets  23. LUKE VALENTE Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, Norwood 24. ISAAC QUAYNOR Small defender, 182cm, 82kg, Oakleigh Chargers 25. JYE CALDWELL Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, Bendigo Pioneers 26. CHAYCE JONES Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, Launceston  27. CONNOR McFADYEN Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, Queensland/Brisbane Lions Academy 28. JACK BYTEL Midfielder, 188cm, 82kg, Calder Cannons 29. LUKE ENGLISH Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, Perth 30. KIERAN BRIGGS Ruckman/key forward, 200cm, 98kg, NSW-ACT/GWS Giants Academy

GARY BUCKENARA’S TOP 30 DRAFT PROSPECTS Buckenara sets out his top 30:- 1. JACK LUKOSIUS Key forward, 194cm, 85kg, Woodville-West Torrens 2. SAM WALSH Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons 3. IZAK RANKINE Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, West Adelaide 4. BEN KING Key forward/defender, 202cm, 85kg, Sandringham Dragons 5. BAILEY SMITH Midfielder, 184cm, 79kg, Sandringham Dragons * 6. NICK BLAKEY Forward/midfielder, 195cm, 85kg, NSW-ACT/Sydney Swans Academy * 7. TARRYN THOMAS Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, North Launcestonc 8. MAX KING Key forward, 201cm, 84kg, Sandringham Dragons 9. JACKSON HATELY Half-forward, 190cm, 81kg, Central District 10. BAILEY WILLIAMS Key forward/ruckman, 198cm, 95kg, Dandenong Stingrays 11. CONNOR ROZEE Midfielder, 184cm, 72kg, North Adelaide 12. IAN HILL Small forward, 175cm 76kg, Perth 13. XAVIER DUURSMA Midfielder/defender, 185cm, 71kg, Gippsland Power 14. CURTIS TAYLOR Half-forward/midfielder, 186cm, 79kg, Calder Cannons 15. LIAM STOCKER Midfielder, 184cm, 83kg, Sandringham Dragons 16. ZAC BUTTERS Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, Western Jets 17. RILEY COLLIER-DAWKINS Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, Oakliegh Chargers * 18. RHYLEE WEST Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, Calder Cannons 19. EDWARD McHENRY Midfielder/small forward, 176cm, 71kg, Geelong Falcons 20. LUKE FOLEY Midfielder, 187cm, 75kg, Subiaco * 21. WILL KELLY Key defender, 193cm, 83kg, Oakleigh Chargers 22. XAVIER O’HALLORAN Midfielder, 186cm, 82kg, Western Jets 23. LUKE VALENTE Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, Norwood * 24. ISAAC QUAYNOR Small defender, 182cm, 82kg, Oakleigh Chargers 25. JYE CALDWELL Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, Bendigo Pioneers 26. CHAYCE JONES Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, Launceston * 27. CONNOR McFADYEN Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, Queensland/Brisbane Lions Academy 28. JACK BYTEL Midfielder, 188cm, 82kg, Calder Cannons 29. LUKE ENGLISH Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, Perth * 30. KIERAN BRIGGS Ruckman/key forward, 200cm, 98kg, NSW-ACT/GWS Giants Academy

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER (after first list lodgement) ROUND ONE 1. Carlton 2. Gold Coast 3. Gold Coast (compensation for losing restricted free agent Tom Lynch) 4. St Kilda 5. Port Adelaide (received from Brisbane as part of Sam Mayes trade) 6. Gold Coast (received from Melbourne for Steven May and Kade Kolodjashnij; received from Fremantle as part of Jesse Hogan trade; received from Brisbane as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Port Adelaide as part of Sam Mayes trade; originally received from Fremantle in a pick swap) 7. Western Bulldogs 8. Adelaide 9. Greater Western Sydney (received from Essendon as part of Dylan Shiel trade) 10. Port Adelaide 11. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap; received from North Melbourne as part of trade for Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard) 12. Geelong 13. Adelaide (received from Sydney via Carlton as part of trade for Mitch McGovern) 14. Fremantle (received from Greater Western Sydney as part of Rory Lobb trade) 15. Port Adelaide (received from Hawthorn as part of Chad Wingard-Ryan Burton trade) 16. Adelaide (received from Melbourne in 2017) 17. Richmond 18. Brisbane (received from Collingwood as part of Dayne Beams trade) 19. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Brisbane as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; received from West Coast in 2017) END OF ROUND ONE 20. West Coast (compensation for losing restricted free agent Scott Lycett) ROUND TWO Adelaide (received from Carlton in 2017) 22. West Coast (received from Gold Coast in 2017) 23. Melbourne (received from Fremantle as part of Jesse Hogan trade; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap; originally received from St Kilda in 2017) 24. Gold Coast (received from Brisbane in a pick swap) 25. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle in 2017) 26. Sydney (received from Carlton as part of trade for Mitch McGovern; originally received from Western Bulldogs in 2017) 27. Western Bulldogs (received as compensation for losing unrestricted free agent Luke Dahlhaus to Geelong) 28. Melbourne (received from St Kilda in a pick swap, received from Sydney as part of Dan Hannebery trade; received from Carlton as part of trade for Mitch McGovern; originally received from Adelaide in 2017) 29. Gold Coast (received from Essendon in 2017) 30. Brisbane (received from Fremantle as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap) 31. Fremantle (received from North Melbourne in a pick swap) 32. Western Bulldogs (received from Brisbane as part of Marcus Adams trade; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; originally received from Geelong in 2017) 33. Sydney 34. Essendon (received from Greater Western Sydney in 2017) 35. Brisbane (received from Port Adelaide as part of Sam Mayes trade; originally received from Hawthorn as part of Chad Wingard-Ryan Burton trade) 36. St Kilda (received from Melbourne in a pick swap) 37. Richmond 38. Sydney (received from Collingwood in 2017) 39. Sydney (received from St Kilda as part of Dan Hannebery trade; received from West Coast as part of trade for Tom Hickey) ROUND THREE 40. Sydney (received from Adelaide as part of trade for Mitch McGovern; originally received from Carlton in 2017) 41. Collingwood (received from Brisbane as part of Dayne Beams trade; originally received from Gold Coast in a pick swap) 42. North Melbourne (received from St Kilda via on-trades in 2017) 43. Fremantle (received from Greater Western Sydney as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Carlton as part of trade for Will Setterfield; received from Geelong for state league player Nathan Kreuger; originally received from Brisbane as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy) COLL 44. Collingwood (received from Brisbane as part of Dayne Beams trade; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; originally received from Fremantle in 2017) 45. Western Bulldogs 46. St Kilda (received from Melbourne in a pick swap; originally received from Adelaide in 2017) 47. North Melbourne (received from Fremantle in a pick swap; received from Greater Western Sydney as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Essendon in 2017) 48. North Melbourne (received from Port Adelaide as part of trade for Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard) 49. North Melbourne (received from Fremantle in a pick swap; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap; originally received from North Melbourne in 2017) 50. Geelong 51. Geelong (received from Collingwood in a pick swap; received from Sydney in 2017) 52. Greater Western Sydney 53. Hawthorn 54. Melbourne 55. North Melbourne (received from Fremantle in a pick swap; received from Brisbane as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Geelong as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy; originally received from Richmond in 2017) 56. Brisbane (received from Collingwood as part of Dayne Beams trade) 57. Collingwood (received as compensation for losing unrestricted free agent Alex Fasolo to Carlton) 58. North Melbourne (received from West Coast via on-trades in 2017) ROUND FOUR 59. Collingwood (received from Geelong in a pick swap; received from Gold Coast for George Horlin-Smith; received from Brisbane in a pick swap; received from Geelong as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy; originally received from Carlton in 2017) 60. Collingwood (received from Geelong in a pick swap; received from Gold Coast in 2017) 61. West Coast (received from St Kilda as part of trade for Tom Hickey) 62. Melbourne (received from North Melbourne as part of trade for Braydon Preuss; received from Sydney for Ryan Clarke; received from Geelong for Gary Rohan; originally received from Brisbane as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy) 63. Western Bulldogs (received from Fremantle in 2017) 64. Richmond (received from the Western Bulldogs for Sam Lloyd) 65. Fremantle (received from Melbourne as part of Jesse Hogan trade; received from St Kilda for Dean Kent; received from Adelaide via on-trades in 2017) 66. Essendon 67. St Kilda (received from Port Adelaide in 2017) 68. Richmond (received from Adelaide for Tyson Stengle; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; originally received from North Melbourne for Aaron Hall) 69. Carlton (received from Geelong in 2017) 70. Geelong (received from Sydney for Jackson Thurlow) 71. Carlton (received from Greater Western Sydney as part of trade for Will Setterfield) 72. West Coast (received from Hawthorn via on-trades in 2017) 73. Adelaide (received from Melbourne in 2017) 74. Richmond 75. Western Bulldogs (received from Collingwood for Jordan Roughead) 76. West Coast ROUND FIVE 77. Carlton 78. Brisbane (received from Gold Coast in a pick swap) 79. St Kilda 80. Gold Coast (received from Brisbane in a pick swap) 81. Fremantle 82. Western Bulldogs 83. Adelaide 84. Essendon 85. Port Adelaide 86. North Melbourne 87. Geelong 88. Sydney 89. Greater Western Sydney 90. Hawthorn 91. Melbourne 92. Richmond 93. Collingwood 94. West Coast