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Man sacked, tells old boss to gagf. I’m in disbelief that something like that could happen.

Green has said a couple of times this year that he’s struggled with the role with a young family and has no interest in doing it long term at this stage of his life. I find it hard to believe he’s trying to do some Game of Thrones takeover out of the blue.

He wrote in a letter last year that smith would take over at the end of this AFL season. She has basically taken that tidbit and run with it.

Insurers really are the scum of the earth.

Coaches don't really get poached. They renewed him because he and the club were going through a smear campaign.

No one wanted to be at the lions 10 years ago. They had many players including captains walk out on them. They turned themselves around when they brought in Swann, Noble and Fagan.

So it's clickbait haha.

This is just getting silly now.

Depends on the conditions you give it but AI would most likely output Buckley if you asked who should be the next coach because that’s what the vast majority of people are saying. It’s just going to hallucinate a response that sounds like what the general consensus is. It doesn’t actually perform any analysis or thinking.

I think the club didn't want to say anything negative about Goodwin publicly which is why 'fresh voice' became the staple line. Essentially the football equivalent of "It's not you, it's me."

Club website says Meahan but I'm not sure how much I trust our media team to get that right lol.

Never heard this. Thought most of the Essendon players maintained that he didn't do anything wrong.

How many times are they gonna ask him the same question?

I'd be extremely concerned if the club based their expectations around betting odds. Some early injuries notwithstanding, our injury list has been fairly healthy throughout the year, and again, the inclusion of Langford and Lindsay was argued to the members as a reason for us to improve this year. The expectations were based on the outcomes of the review completed in the last off-season which Goodwin was a key part of. Either Goodwin sold the board a vision that was unobtainable, he wasn't able to achieve what was actually atainable and moved the goalposts.

We had injuries at the start of the year and were also told that the high draft picks would be key in getting us back to finals this year. Two of the debutants were mature aged VFL players who have barely been seen since, aka depth. One was Jefferson who had been on the list for two years already and the club had to bite the bullet and see if he could actually play.

Think his last month has been a bit better.

Unfortunately I think he's worth a lot more than what the market will pay. If he went to the Eagles it'd go like, we ask for a first, West Coast offer their second. We end up accepting the second with a late pick swap as steak knives. I remember another report last week that he might go to another victorian club so who knows what's actually happening with him.

A Geelong premiership player, you say? Welcome back Shannon Byrnes!

I don't want to be too harsh because I think he's done an pretty good job under incredibly difficult circumstances but he is really just not president material.

Green was shocking in the presser. Looked extremely nervous and like he'd been coached just to say 'fresh voice' over and over.

See this post for how I believe it played out over the course of the year. Goodwin can say he was blindsided but he’s not an [censored]. He knew he was in trouble. Everyone did.

Yeah Goodwin was getting some bad press at the time due to some Warner articles. Goodwin got extended before the finals series and the club did some chest beating about sticking with the coach.

I think based on the information we have it's reasonable to say that the key outcome of that meeting is that Goodwin and the board likely didn't see eye to eye on where they thought the team was at and likely confirmed their view that he was no longer the man to take the team forward. A 'step or two backwards' doesn't necessarily mean a wholesale rebuild. It might just mean moving a few senior players on and adding more talent around our existing core of youth. If anything it takes some pressure off the next coach to immediately get results. Goodwin had only a couple of weeks ago saId that we were in a 'transition period' and agreed with the notion that we were 'rebuilding on the run'. It was only after he lost his job that he started talking about how close the team was to the ultimate success. It's a smart way of putting it. Either the team immediately spikes and he's vindicated or they fall apart and it looks like the next guy screwed it up.

Calm down. Not sure we've got money to burn either way.

In my own personal view it always seemed pretty clear that after the review at the end of last season Goodwin and the rest of the football department had led the board to believe that we would bounce back in 2025. That would explain the incredibly bullish language in the letters penned by Brad Green, and Tim Lamb's summation of where the team was at at the end of the trade period. Somewhere during the pre-season I think it dawned on Goodwin that we were a fair way off. This is when we started to hear about the 'love' mantra and that finals wasn't an 'expectation' but an 'ambition'. Then we get a 0-5 start and the club is given a massive reality check. We get a bit of a sugar hit, winning 5 of our next 6 against mostly lowly opposition as well as a famous victory against the reigning premiers at home and maybe things are starting to turn. Unfortunately it doesn't last long and we go on another 5 game losing streak. Our season over before the bye. I think this is probably the moment the board start to question whether Goodwin is the right man. We go on to win a comfortable game against North, lose embarrassingly to Carlton and then the Saints game happens and the writing is on the wall. If Goodwin then went to the board and pitched that the club was ready to skyrocket up the ladder under his leadership it's not surprising they didn't see eye to eye.