KozzyCan

Most ruckmen are pretty useless until their body fills out. Gotta give them 4-5 years before they're really ready.

You sound like Mario from Doncaster.

Lake and Frawley at Hawthorn, Neale at Brisbane come to mind. Jury still out on JHF at Port and Jackson at Freo. Wouldn't consider Brown a big fish at all. Was being pushed out by North and we paid cents on the dollar for him, he did enough in 2021 but his best footy was clearly behind him. May and Lever were our big fish.

Was a pretty ordinary answer to a question that should be a layup. Lamb is supposed to be the guy selling the club to players so they come here and looked like a deer in the headlights when asked why a player should do exactly that.

This whole thing could have been handled way better if we just carried the Paul Roos mantra of 'anyone is tradable for the right price'. Would take all the pressure off the club for 'shopping players around' and players would never feel like the club is dealing behind their back. If a player gets chased while they're in contract you just tell them its fine and they can explore it but the deal has to work for us. All the secret dealing behind the scenes, leaks to the media followed by emphatic statements just make the club look silly and rudderless as soon as circumstances change.

Lamb didn't sound too convincing re Derksen and GWS been firm. Not great signs.

He's a very awkward media performer.

I don't really get why a Carlton supporter would choose to spend their days hanging around a Melbourne forum. Very odd behaviour tbh.

I don't fear them, but playing them is a pretty miserable experience of late. The games aren't even entertaining. Apart from a small reprieve in 2023 we've been beaten the exact same way by them every time the past few years.

We are Collingwood's bunnies. I'd rather play them less not more.

Very little in that piece from Barrett didn't even hint that Geelong were upping their offer. Think this is all but done.

That would be risky.

If ANB was OOC we would not be getting first round compo for him. Compo is based on money and KPP's go at a premium.

Isn't the top 5-10 a bit of a raffle in this draft? I don't see the value in moving up a couple of spots.

Langford is probably my second favourite after Draper.

How can you be sure no one is talking to Morris? Because he [censored] off a few people at the club 10 years ago? Seems like a stretch. Most of the people who are at the club now wouldn't have been there for that episode and the ones who were are probably over it by now. A lot of the reports to me have felt like clumsy attempts from our side to set the narrative. I think there are people within the club who think they can use the media like a tool to run their agendas.

Gawn sounded pretty frustrated about the leaks. There is clearly an issue.

My reading of that, which had the caption 'Sounds like a man who wants to repay the faith' was that Oliver was saying it wasn't him but the club. Oliver obviously felt betrayed when he found out the club was shopping him and Geelong love bombed him. We got cold feet when we saw how [censored] the deal was. We've made a complete mess of things, this story wasn't made up.

Oh come on! Why do you think Oliver liked the post saying he was going to Geelong? This was obviously very real, stop blaming the media for the mess the club has made yet again.

It absolutely was not.

The thing that bugs me about this is the behaviour from the club has come across as incredibly indecisive and shambolic. Either the club wasn't fully aligned on the standards they set themselves and have fallen apart the moment they were tested. Or we're doing some bizarre gambit where 'we're thinking of trading him but maybe not, let's have a meeting to work it out'. Both scenarios just makes the club look terrible. People might argue that definitively putting Oliver on the trade table would have gotten us a worse deal, but I can't imagine the difference would have been much worse than what we'll end up getting back from Geelong. Reputation matters. We've already scared away Houston this year and I doubt any decent player will be wanting to join us for a while.

So just the footy department heads? And the reports that Goodwin doesn't approve of this move aren't true then?

It would be unfair to pick favourites!

The 'List Management Committee' wtf is that? Who want's to bet it's run by Pert and includes me, myself and I?

Shocked we didn't have Tom Morris taking minutes.