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Martin will be on SFA

It's not where the deal started. The TPP has gone up and Oliver gets his slice of that. With things like the Mac Andrew deal and Saints offeering 900k a year to Leek Aleer I don't think that sort of money is as eye-watering as it used to be.

Geelong could re-sign Parfitt as a DFA and the media would pump it up like it's a stroke of genius.

I think it would be pretty low to hope Oliver's life falls apart again just because he plays for another team. I've been pretty disappointed in him but if going elsewhere helps him get back on track then it's probably for the best for all involved.

In the vast majority of cases, yes. You wouldn't want the top level getting involved at a level as granular as determining list needs, or trying to court a big name player. If this is about behavioral issues, the admin and CEO set the direction and if clear standards were set that have been breached by Oliver and the coach/footy dept are unwilling to take action then that's a problem. That is to say that it's not Pert's job to actually start fielding offers from other clubs and going over their heads is a disgrace. He needs to trust the list management and coach to get that done. Real dogs breakfast this situation.

Can someone please explain to me the difference between the 'footy department' and the 'list management committee'? Surely there would be some crossover there but they are being reported as having wildly different views.

I've never heard of this guy before today.

I'm so over all this. I'm at the point that I'm ready to embrace a bit of a rebuild and see if we can get back in a couple of years. We've got some good young players on our list, add a couple of years of high draft picks and who knows. You can't seriously challenge with these spotfires coming up every other week.

Are they saying that teammates weren't happy with him attending the Brownlow? Or did something happen there? Missing medical appointments he's agreed would be disappointing though. The real issue is if his teammates have lost faith in him again. Going to be hard to overcome.

Hope everyone is okay!

I'm sure if you dig a lttle you'll find some. For instance, Footy Classified interviewed a random Pies member who was pushing for a board spill in 2021.

I love how people on this site demand evidence right before preemptively dismissing the available evidence.

Hard to say. There are conflicting reports. I still find it bizarre that Pert is making those calls and not Lamb even if the above is correct. I feel like there's a bit of backpedaling going on.

If the Board and Pert have decided that its time for Oliver to go they need to get in touch with Richo, Lamb and Goodwin and explain that this is the direction the club is taking and they are instructed to find the best offer for him. Basic chain of command. It's terrible to have the footy dept blindsided by the CEO going over their heads.

Would be laughable if this is how the club is being run. Pretty obvious that threatening to trade Oliver last year didn't work as we would have hoped. Trying the same thing again would only prove that it's an empty threat.

That should pretty much stamp his papers.

Probably because the response from Geelong and SDK was more emphatic than we are or our players are.

I feel like I've seen this exact phrasing like 8 times now.

He's sharing a post from a podcast he was on.

Club needed to make this assessment a month ago. Is this group still up for it or are we fooling ourselves? If it's the former you put all your efforts into getting this group right and bolstering them through solid trades and a high end draft pick or two. If it's the latter then do what Richmond have done and get as much value out of your players at the trade table and load up at the draft. Our behaviour implies the club is being pulled in two different directions from within.

How does that work? Pert is calling up a bunch of clubs and saying "hey are you still keen on Oliver?" and we think we can con them into paying overs because we release a public statement to the press saying we will never trade him.

What possible reason could there be for Pert to be floating players on the trade table behind the clubs back? When has another CEO behaved in such a way?

This doesn't explain why the club is saying we're not trading him and didn't know Oliver was meeting with other clubs. Two completely different stories indicates some of the decision makers have been blindsided by this.

This is to blatant to ignore. Complete overreach of his position appears to have blindsided others at the club.

Pert needs to be sacked yesterday.