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Lamb didn't sound too convincing re Derksen and GWS been firm. Not great signs.

He's a very awkward media performer.

I don't really get why a Carlton supporter would choose to spend their days hanging around a Melbourne forum. Very odd behaviour tbh.

I don't fear them, but playing them is a pretty miserable experience of late. The games aren't even entertaining. Apart from a small reprieve in 2023 we've been beaten the exact same way by them every time the past few years.

We are Collingwood's bunnies. I'd rather play them less not more.

Very little in that piece from Barrett didn't even hint that Geelong were upping their offer. Think this is all but done.

That would be risky.

If ANB was OOC we would not be getting first round compo for him. Compo is based on money and KPP's go at a premium.

Isn't the top 5-10 a bit of a raffle in this draft? I don't see the value in moving up a couple of spots.

Langford is probably my second favourite after Draper.

How can you be sure no one is talking to Morris? Because he [censored] off a few people at the club 10 years ago? Seems like a stretch. Most of the people who are at the club now wouldn't have been there for that episode and the ones who were are probably over it by now. A lot of the reports to me have felt like clumsy attempts from our side to set the narrative. I think there are people within the club who think they can use the media like a tool to run their agendas.

Gawn sounded pretty frustrated about the leaks. There is clearly an issue.

My reading of that, which had the caption 'Sounds like a man who wants to repay the faith' was that Oliver was saying it wasn't him but the club. Oliver obviously felt betrayed when he found out the club was shopping him and Geelong love bombed him. We got cold feet when we saw how [censored] the deal was. We've made a complete mess of things, this story wasn't made up.

Oh come on! Why do you think Oliver liked the post saying he was going to Geelong? This was obviously very real, stop blaming the media for the mess the club has made yet again.

It absolutely was not.

The thing that bugs me about this is the behaviour from the club has come across as incredibly indecisive and shambolic. Either the club wasn't fully aligned on the standards they set themselves and have fallen apart the moment they were tested. Or we're doing some bizarre gambit where 'we're thinking of trading him but maybe not, let's have a meeting to work it out'. Both scenarios just makes the club look terrible. People might argue that definitively putting Oliver on the trade table would have gotten us a worse deal, but I can't imagine the difference would have been much worse than what we'll end up getting back from Geelong. Reputation matters. We've already scared away Houston this year and I doubt any decent player will be wanting to join us for a while.

So just the footy department heads? And the reports that Goodwin doesn't approve of this move aren't true then?

It would be unfair to pick favourites!

The 'List Management Committee' wtf is that? Who want's to bet it's run by Pert and includes me, myself and I?

Shocked we didn't have Tom Morris taking minutes.

Every journo is getting solid info from the club because we leak like a sieve. The biggest problem with the club right now is that we don't deal with this stuff inside house. Every journo and their dog hears about our dirty linen. It shows how little trust there is within the club. Every one is trying to talk to journos and control the narrative and it only serves to make us look like a mess. Fixing this should be the top of Pert's agenda but considering his conduct over the past few weeks I expect he's probably the biggest culprit.

Luckily as this is positive news about Melbourne, Tom Morris can be completely trusted.

I think it's far more likely our club is simply poorly run than we're running some bizzaro scheme like this that yields no tangible benefit for anyone and only serves to make the club look shambolic.

That second tweet feels like splitting hairs tbh.

With everything that has gone on this year and last I'm finding it very difficult to believe that this group has another flag in them. From our flag side we've already lost Brayshaw, Jackson, ANB, Hibberd, Harmes and Brown. Obviously some of those players are more vital than others and we've got a couple of decent kids coming through but I would say it's been a clear net loss so far. Then when the club is also at war with two of its stars it's looking pretty grim. The silver lining is we're not in 2007 territory. We have a good bit of youth going for us and some good leaders who have some time left and with a couple of good drafts we could set ourselves up for a long time.