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I thought it was just in addition to, to take the free spot?

I'd be amazed if Langford fell to us.

I think the damage is the media. As much as Trac wanted to go, there is no one in football who could've seen a trade eventuating, so the media should've made it a story on how Melbourne can improve but instead made it a trading story. Even they acknowledged Trac wont request a trade yet that's all they spoke about it

Petracca spoke to the players before committing to know he'd be okay at the club. He's happy his grievances about the club have been listened to and that all he wanted. He knew a deal couldn't be done with the clubs he wanted and then moved to mending fences at Melbourne. A lot of work for club and player to ensure we don't have a repeat in 2025

Anyway we can find this?

I think there is a long way back, but listening to Roffey on SEN earlier, does anyone have confidence it stops if she does remain in charge

I think they do (Although while Trac likes him, I don't think the respect is there anymore) but the reality is, look at the shambles the football side of our club is at right now and that's the responsibility of Goodwin and Richardson. Whether players like them or not, that has to come under some sort of scrutiny

Did she think this would be a positive for her?

Yet 3 of those 3 resigning are the ones that have told the club they want to leave? I've already mentioned another player that is homesick although nothing against the MFC, he loves the club, But you can't possibly think the coach (and especially Richardson) can survive a debacle like this? In a post that got deleted yesterday I indicated that Petracca would be satisfied if Goodwin and Richardson were moved on, and in the same post I indicated Carlton and Petracca have been flirting for a longer time than the media has known which was confirmed by Morris last night. The club is on it's knees and a review of EVERY position is desperately needed, especially the coach and head of football operations

This is almost reaching levels of taking the [censored]. He had the chance to go home but chose to sign a 4 year deal, then when the club is in turmoil he plays the homesick card. Hope the club tells him where to stick it. But from another perspective, the club is in absolute turmoil right now. How could a coach possibly survive when your 2 most important players are desperate to leave (and they're not the only 2), another leader is jumping ship, you have another star at a crossroads and a player banned for illegal substances. How is he untouchable in this situation?

This is really where we're at right now. Yuck

Morris reporting that Suns have told Lukosius he can explore a trade. A certain upgrade on Billings

What a poor move this would be for Saints, and for Houston. If he wanted to avoid a Tarranto situation at the Dees, I'm not sure how Saints are a better option

There is no doubting he will probably be in the top 5, even top 3 in our B + F, but if you haven't noticed even Houston can see through this PR exercise to show we have a good culture. I wish Nibbler well, I understand why he wants to leave, but I won't cry over players who want out. If I was the club, I'd tell him he can go with our blessing IF the SA clubs come to the party.

I don't think we need to be hopeful at all. What we need is the players to pull their finger out and find the love again, some refreshing ideas in the coaching box and a firm reset on the players mindsets. But think of the reality. A year of football into Oliver who got himself clean. A big pre season and what could be next year. Returning Trac Brayshaw money to improve free agency A good high pick in a depe draft to top up the talent the way Sydney do and fund a kid to inject some youth in our side like Windsor has. the "depth role players" we lost last year have been replaced by some very good kids who look at home in AFL football. Some gem finds in the middle like Rivers and Kozzie There is no standout elader in the competition and every team is chaseable. Infact at times this year we have looked the best side in it (Geelong, Carlton fourth quarter, port away etc) The stones are there, the club can either sit down and have some hard truths and turn it around or sit around and sook that the media is still against us.

Love Nibbler, but there were plenty of times the club should've given up on him and didn't. However, this is a nicely timed PR exercise from the club. Come to Melbourne and we'll look after you and your family and give you waht you want But the constant fanfare on social media is a bit much. This isn't Gawn retiring or Jones leaving the premiership hub, he's a guy in contract demanding to leave at a time we're down. Goodbye, hope Crows miss the finals again next year

Don't see the loss in a guy who read a report about culture and made the decision to not come. Who did he sit down with at the club to come to that conclusion overnight. Plus mortgaging our future on a guy who will be 28 when he plays his first game I hope this is a good lesson to players to keep their matters internal.

That’s seriously disappointing from the coaching staff. They had the chance to get some minutes into Jefferson and the chance to look at our future with petty back and Jeffo forward instead we’re back to Tomlinson and Petty forward. Yuck

Club, including goody, were absolutely devastated to lose Burgess

Watching gettable yesterday and the idea that at least 8/9 players could go pick 1, we’d be crazy to give it up for Houston because of “window” reeks of the Tim Kelly trade

I accepted the key cog in our premiership going home to be with his kids it would hurt a lot of he ends up back in Victoria not at us

“Would get” olympic gold medal for you comprehension skills if you don’t think clubs don’t explore every trade options available to them then your knowledge of footy isn’t great either Decisions are made with the whole picture in mind It’s a deep draft, imagine getting more picks in it? You think the club won’t explore that? You think they wouldn’t jump at the chance to trade Oliver if there’s a club out there dumb enough to do it? you think the club would’ve rejected the petty trade without checking with wce if the picks would get them Reid? Oh and the picks add up to the year after, ie knowing they can trade a future first for Houston if they’re wary of rivers wanting to go home in a12 months

I wish my wife was more like you

4pm no announcement makes me sad :(

One thing I've learnt on this site while lurking for a while is how combative people are against those trying to give some info. Especially when that info is so clearly spot on Edmund said almost done - and a few days later I said IMMINENT about an hour before he signed. Re Houston - I have no idea if it gets done, but I would be surprised if it doesn't. But the club doesn't know either because if it comes down to really having to give up 2 PICKS in the first, they might need to reconsider their plan to get him, and whether Oliver actually is tradeable etc. We don't know pick numbers either until the season is over so things are moving and changing all the time.