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No he's ruck depth now and he'll play if Max or Brodie miss. He's a must keep IMO.

Reading the hypothetical trades here I think people are going to be very disappointed with the final outcome - WC 2 and F1st - you cannot be serious! Jackson and OUR F1st for 2 and 26 is more likely than that. Maybe we could convert our F1st into a late 1st this year to keep WC in this year's 1st round. I know it doesn't sound fair when we're losing a pick 3 who has shown the goods and two teams are competing for his services, but that's the way it is when players want out. The Lever trade is the benchmark.

I agree that value sounds right. Lamb said we're only taking 2 ND selections and we need one for Grundy. We only have 27 now which in some form goes for Grundy. So I guess we could use the 1st we get from Freo plus 30 for the picks.

Contracts probably similar, both 3rd round compo. Honestly this isn't the kind of thing that gets me worked up ...

Pick 43 is useless based on our trade with Port. Maybe we could use 43 + 27 to inch higher for the Grundy deal, or maybe GWS could do 21 for Bedford + 27. Or maybe a future 3rd.

Almost as bad as Buddy and Frawley ...

If WC could do 2 for 5 & 7 with GC, I'd be happy to take 5 & 26 or 7 & 20 for Jackson.

Brisbane get 35 (522pts) as compensation for McStay, I bet they were hoping for end of first round 19 (942pts) for points.

It's hard to go to the trade and draft at the the same time unless there's a FA you want. Look at Richmond, they're going to wipe out two drafts for Taranto and Hopper.

And JVR and Blake Howes.

WC are just saying this to keep the PSD threat live.

I bet you one billion dollars Jackson doesn't end up at North. It's simply not in play.

Cal and Riley are worth listening to on Trade Exchange at noon if you can put up with the Ads.

I've got F2nd + Bedford to GWS for 21 in my daydreams ....

What do you expect him to say "I'm Jason Taylor's brother-in-law*"? Just accept that @Demons11 has some solid info from an anonymous source. * Likely to become accepted fact on DLand now, sorry ....

GWS are going to have a sh*t load of picks this year with Taranto, Hopper, Bruhn and Hill out. Maybe they'd take our future 2nd + Bedford for 21 and we could on trade 21 to Collingwood for Grundy. That would be a nice deal all around.

BBBP recruited our Premiership Captain

13 + Logue to North for 8 8 + F1st to us for Jackson + 32

You mean like Caleb Daniel 170cm and 71kg, 153 games so far at 26yo?

Agree and I think Hunt's $350k into 2025 is the sealer.

I'm on record wanting to keep Toby. With his speed and endurance, if he can overcome his fumbly tendency to spend it before he's got it, then he can become a very good player. And at 21 there's a chance he can. But I don't want to get into a bidding war with GWS who, with Taranto, Hopper, Bruhn and Hill all leaving, can offer him more opportunity. People need to keep perspective, we're losing Jayden and Toby, but we signed Clarrie and Angus. People also need to be realistic on the trade value. We'll get what Collingwood gives GWS for Hill, probably 42, 47 or 48. So it's really only cap and list space unfortunately.

He dominated against Casey towards the end of the season. But I doubt he'd be gettable - he, McDonald and McLean are the logical Buddy and Reid replacements - both of whom let them down at the pointy end this year.

Reads happy to go to WC in Perth. Wonder about Western Sydney?

I agree the time is now and I think with the addition of Grundy, return of TMac and rise of JVR we're OK for tall forward targets over the next two years. There's no better options currently on the market unless you want to offer McStay 6 years. Ideally we'll draft a KPF prospect and line up a big FA or trade for 2025 so we can continue the Dynasty through to the end of the decade.

That's really great thanks Luci, do you have the data for Hibbo and Rivers?