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By all reports Jayden wanted to stay at the club but was "encouraged" into Free Agency. Meanwhile Luke Jackson gets a Premiership ring.

I didn't attend the MFC Best & Fairest this year, but it has been communicated to me by someone who did, that Kate Roffey spoke of an earlier function where the MFC 2021 Premiership 23 dined with the Board and were presented with "Premiership rings". I'm actually an advocate of everyone who plays at least one senior game in a Premiership year gets a Premiership medallion, but I respect and appreciate there are sound arguments against this. If the club wanted to commemorate the Premiership with MFC rings then this was the golden opportunity to award them to the entire 2021 squad. Giving them to just the 23 who played is appallingly tone deaf to the idea that it takes a full squad to win a flag and just drives a wedge in the playing group. Look no further than the May/J.Smith/Melksham incident this year to see why. I'm horrified by this totally stupid idea.

I can vouch that @Rhino Richards did.

Poor judge further proves his poverty.

OK, you've gone with that one. I picked you as more "they're finally doing what I've been saying all along" kind of guy.

I'd definitely care. Along with @Whispering_Jack and @Demonland you're the engine of the site Nasher. I've made some very valuable lifelong friendships from Demonology/Demonland and the community has enhanced my life.

Renowned Charlie Spargo hater recommends Jake Aarts. You must be trolling...

How about we get our first dynasty over with, it's just begun. I note recent "dynasties" Geelong, Hawthorn and Richmond didn't win the flag in the year following their breakthrough win.

Cam Bruce played a lot of footy in 32 also. It was good for T.Watson and M.Ricciuto. It has got some weight.

I think with the trade/FA departures and arrivals our biggest needs are: Versatile lockdown defender to replace Hibberd. Someone who can play on C.Cameron, Papley, Stengle, Elliott, even Dusty when he's forward etc. All the best teams have a dangerous small-medium forward that needs to be quelled. This is pretty urgent I think, we're probably relying on J.Smith and maybe Rivers to develop into this player. It's not an easy role to fill and takes a mature body and football brain. We could draft someone into the role but they're not going to be ready for 3 or 4 years which is too long away IMO. We need to look for someone DFA, SSP or MSD for this. Or go into next year's trade with this as a focus. Key forward. I think we should be able to cover this for the next two years with some combination of B.Brown, TMac, JVR and Max but we'll need someone ready to go in 2025 because at least 2 of those 4 will be done. That means either drafting someone this year or making a trade or FA play over the next two years for an established player. The other alternative is grooming Petty for a KPF role in that timeframe, but we will also have to replace May around then too, so that will leave a big hole to fill in the backline. We could chase a KPD in the draft or trade/FA instead of a KPF if this plan floats. They may be easier to find. Ruck or ruck-forward. Again, I think we should be fine with Grundy, Max and Schache for depth over the next two or three years. We could look for more depth with a mature SSP or MSD selection. Like with the KPF/KPD above, we'll either need to draft someone pronto or trade/FA for someone over the next 2 or 3 years. It would be ideal if we could draft someone who is capable as a ruck-forward and maybe solve two problems in one hit, but they're rare birds. Small goal kicking forward. Kossie is the answer here - he's going to be right up there with the greatest ever to play the role. But what's the certainty that we can retain him? Like I said above, all the best teams have someone dangerous in this role. I think AMW has shown some good signs at Casey and could develop into a good player here. If someone was available with these attributes at one of our picks this year I'd be happy if we took them. I think Grundy and Hunter are very good pick-ups and clearly address immediate ruck and wing needs and improve us in both areas. I'm not sure where Hunter's arrival leaves JJ and, because we delisted and re-rookied him, he's FA for life. Unless there's a spate of injuries, it's hard to see where he slots in. I'd be very sorry to lose him at the end of next year because he can play and he seems like a very good character.

@DeeSpencer posts interesting football related content. I don't always agree but it's always well thought out and researched. Your major contribution seems to be to stomp on any slight perceived criticism of any aspect of the club. I'm a well known optimist and generally a supporter of club decisions so if I feel this way it definitely says something. Maybe take up the challenge and try to contribute some original football content like DeeSpencer does.

I believe MSD can come on as Rookies can't they. Disco is a Rookie listed player.

I think you're thinking of @IvanBartul13 and @ChaserJ Jimmy

I think there's a couple more flags in this group. They're hard to win.

D+ is very harsh on North. JHF decided to leave and they had to make the best of a bad lot like us with Jackson. They turned JHF into pick 2. Following that pick 1 into 3 and F1st is good dealing too if you don't want the player GWS does at 1, ie Cadman. You still get the 2 players you want and the F1st. They got a couple of handy players from Freo for their must-trade assistance picks, which is decent going with their coaching uncertainty.

When you buy the jumper at the Demon Shop at the MCG they will iron on your number of choice at an extra charge

A trade up could happen on draft night if there's someone on our draft list that is available later than we expected. Then maybe 37 + F2nd for a pick in the early 20s.

"I was shocked Turned to the missus, she was shocked Totally blown away"

Put down that burning pot.

Patience grasshopper. @Lucifers Hero will explain all to you after today's dealing is done.

If Grundy played against Sydney in the PF the Pies were into the GF.

Cage fight to the death.

Brian Taylor - contracted to 7 though

Yes I agree it's the right call for them, country boy possibly less likely to "go home" too. And yes they should bid Ashcroft. It was a joke that Daicos wasn't bid until 4 last year. I was more addressing @spirit of norm smith musing that we could trade up to get 1 off GWS - that is dreamland talk.

We have got that Petty option, I'm in the camp that he saves more goals than he can create. But it's definitely an option with Tomlinson and Turner in the wings. I think we need to see where TMac and BBB are at over summer and leading into next year. We probably need 2 of TMac, BBB and JVR available each game for the next 2 years. If we get 100 games out of the 3 of them across that period then Petty can stay back. I should add that we need to recruit another ready to go KPF by the end of that period - I think that's possible - we can clear cap with outgoing players and we have a strong future draft hand.