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Well what is the reason Tom Scully would go to Richmond? You said it's not about money It can't be about their winning culture You've said above it's not about him supporting Richmond You wont put words in your mouth ... You've never provided a reason why Tom would go to Richmond and you've never provided a method for him getting there. Put up or shut up.

I preferred it when you were psycho-analysing Fev and urging us to care.

Presumably according to H007 he'll go there becaus of Richmond's culture of success over the last 30 years ... Or wait, he'll go there because he barracked for them as a kid like Judd went to the club he barracked for ...

Huh??? I don't think Choko's tough stance on Nick Stevens is the reason Port Adelaide is broke. Choko took the hard line and Port won the flag soon after. There are other reasons for their financial problems.

It starts here: Post 23 Now 2nd verse same as the first ... apparently so mysterious we couldn't possibly understand.

I've asked him before - all you get is "hello darkness my old friend ..." But it's very mysterious darkness

Umm - that may have been my point? And Port Adelaide won the flag not long after. I've always really liked Choko, wonder how he's enjoying GWS?

hangon has been consistent - he's been on about Richmond since last Christmas I'm reminded of Choko Williams and Nick Stevens.

ditto

You disappoint me - I thought we could have some fun. I'm St.Kilda - our flag window is passed. I'll trade Brendan Goddard to you. Two options: 1. Any player on your list OR 2. Your first rounder (say pick 16) + any player outside your top 3 (as protected by you) I'm Geelong - our flag window has passed too (appearances can be deceiving). I'll trade James Kelly to you. For your first rounder (say about pick 16) + any player outside your top 10 (as protected by you)

Sure you would - our first rounder and Jack Trengove?

You don't say! And I imagine you wouldn't bang Liza Minelli but Beyonce would be a different matter (if the price was right) Would you trade for Brendan Goddard or James Kelly?

Don't think KPBs are our priority - we've got Frawley, Rivers, Garland. Martin can play there. We've got McDonald and Davis in the hopper. Warnock can't get a game. Clubs with much greater need like Hawthorn and Carlton would drive the price up. I think outside mids and a small forward are probably our current greatest need - possibly available at a reasonable cost in trade too.

My RFC sauce says Miller plays 2nd ruck and Vickery KPF.

That is correct. * If an uncontracted player goes to GWS the AFL provides compensation draft picks out of a pool - GWS don't give up anything. * If that player wants to go to a specific other club then a trade involving picks and players has to be arranged and they come from that club. * If the trade can't be agreed then the player can go into the draft and put a contract price on their head (think Luke Ball) but GWS has the first pick(s) in the National, Pre-season and Rookie drafts and heaps of salary cap space - but MFC would not get any compensation.

Looking at that data, the contested possession differential is a pretty good indicator I reckon. When you consider our effort in R1 against the Swans who are a top 6 team it was very good and also pretty good against St.Kilda, whereas against North and West Coast we were well down on what we could expect. No surprise that Collingwood, Carlton and Hawthorn out compete us at this stage of our development. The contested possession differential against Richmond will be a strong indicatior of the result.

11 contested possessions.

Was drinking ORANGE Powerade in the rooms - it's an INDICATOR!

No, he says quite clearly in the article it was so he could &*#4 Annette Allison.

Paranoia will destroya. So for cultural reasons Tom's going to go to the club whose president started the lies that he's signed with GWS?

Agreed - credibility zero all round. Now if he said he went to the Mountain Spew on the corner of High St Road and Springvale Road Glen Waverley after the match ...

Yep, and the way to ward off GWS poaching Tom Scully is for the club and supporters to remain calm, consistent, confident and supportive and to resist hysterical ultimatums, hair-tearing and hand-wringing. Get it straight - YOU can drive Tom away from our club with weak-minded pessimism or YOU can influence him to stay by hanging tough.

"Decision" OMG is it a sign? That's what he's said all along - not that he's signed with GWS, not that he will sign with MFC, that he's putting off a decision until the end of the season. As hardtack points out that perfectly reasonable. The hypocrisy and double standards in this thread are breath-taking - MFC is putting off making contract decisions on Dean Bailey, Matthew Warnock and Addam Maric until the end of the year. Tom is going to make a decision at the end of the year and panic-merchants, cry-babies and doom-sayers are not helping him make the right decision.

I've posted this before but here goes again - I'm struggling to see why people think it's more unfair that Tom Scully can be targeted than it is that Marc Murphy can be targeted? From Carlton's perspective they've invested more in Murphy and are just starting to reap the rewards. If there was a service limit on GC/GWS targets it would need to be pretty long - like the free agency 8 years and that probably doesn't give them sufficient advantage. The fact is they need decent concessions and we're potentially collateral damage - the only way out is a fair compensation deal. I don't think Geelong got that with Ablett - he's worth more that 2 mid 1st rounders and so would Brendan Goddard, Marc Murphy and Tom Scully be. My second observation is that Demetriou has a reputation for holding a grudge and getting even - I think he retains a special place in his heart for MFC from when he was a lone voice saying that tanking doesn't occur despite significant circumstantial evidence. I'm not expecting any special favours.

Tom Scully will sign with Melbourne. Follow this and you'll be right.