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Sell at his peak. There'd be demand. I was big on Weed or Hogan back to replace Frost. But looks like Hogan is gone so that is off. Therefore May in makes complete sense and trade Frost. Fallback is the Frost OMac status quo.

It's unclear. But I'm happy with him and Petty as depth if we're playing May, OMac, Lever. Frost could then be traded at peak value.

What do you propose?

Strangely I can see him in a St.Kilda jumper too.

Yep on reflection I'm dreaming. Saints pick 57 will probably get it done and move on.

Yes there are 4 alternatives 1. Re-sign with MFC 2. Trade 3. He goes in the draft 4. Quits football

Agree - trade Frost now at peak value. He was good this year and we would not have made finals without him. He has his dashing pace and attacks the contest but he still has shortcomings - he dropped or misjudged many marks. We do need a replacement KPB - I would go for Weed or Hogan because they offer much more class and I think we only can carry 2 KPFs in the 22. But if Hogan is traded the May deal makes complete sense. We have developing KPB depth coverage with Petty and Keilty.

He's not a Free Agent until the end of 2021. He was drafted in special mini draft in 2012 but was not on our senior list in 2013 and could only play for Casey because he was too young. First season on our senior list was 2014. 8 years to qualify for FA means end of 2021. He is out of contract next year though.

Maybe the Saints have to send their 1st round pick 3 or 2019 1st round to Sydney for Hannebury and get a pick back they can use for Kent? Sydney have 31 and 34 or thereabouts. Alternatively they could offer a future 2nd for Kent but that would stop them being able to use future 1st vfor Hannebury. I reckon this will drag on in trade week.

There's absolutely no way Gawn and Preuss can both play with a forward line of Hogan, TMac and Weed. All those 3 have to play so something has to give there. Either Weed or Hogan play key back and push Frost out or it's in anticipation of a Hogan trade and resulting restructure. There has to be consistent structure from week to week so the plan gets settled. Goodwin is emphatic about playing "our way". IMO it wont generally work to have Preuss play just "some of the time". It's either on or not. If it is on then we play 2 rucks consistently. If it's not on he could give Max a bye as necessary but we play one ruck consistently and rarely or never play 2. I love the idea of Preuss as ruck depth but I'm sceptical of the consistent 2 ruck plan - it costs an extra midfield runner. An in match injury to a mid leaves us very top heavy and stretches rotations to breaking point.

Jesse has crack in his navicular and this is a notoriously difficult injury to fully recover from. Let's say Freo is waving 6 years x $1M at him - I bet that insurance looks very attractive. On the other hand MFC has Viney, Stretch, VDB and Hogan all with foot problems that create a lot of uncertainty. Maybe we want to manage some risk and are not enthusiastic about competing with that Freo offer right now. I can see this influencing the market.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-draft-how-fatherson-and-academy-draft-picks-work-explaining-the-bidding-system/news-story/2336f3c1b618638b6f5637bab62676fd Academy club also gets 20% discount on the points of the pick the other club initially selects the player with so only has to give later picks worth 80% of the points.

I agree it's a mystery, particularly since I think we'll struggle to fit Hogan, TMac and Weed into the same line up. Adding Preuss just makes it harder.

I'm not a fan of 2 rucks, especially when we have solid and capable relief in Weed and TMac.

I can see that we could improve our KPD stocks, despite Frost's good year I'm not a believer. I'm not a believer in 3 tall forwards either. I'd much prefer to go with Weed back or even Hogan. They would be better than May IMO and we already have them. May is excess IMO

I'm strongly in favour of recruiting Preuss as depth ruck but I'm strongly against playing two rucks when we have Weed and TMac already doing good job. Not sure why Preuss would come under those circumstances but I'd welcome him.

And yet you've made the same post about 30 times in this thread. Irony?

I never saw him reported as a Free Agent. Link to evidence?

Lever wasn't a Free Agent. With all the discussion associated with that trade last year it's difficult to understand how you came to think that?

He was drafted in 2013 so next year is his 6th year so he's not an FA until 2021. He is out of contract next year.

Viney's acceleration and side step are truly elite. His foot injury does not seem to have affected them like say Trengove's. On numerous occasions his burst and his direction change were equal to the best ever. Let's hope the prognosis for his feet stays good. De Viney!

He's a star. Fantastic work on the clips these past 2 matches @david_neitz_is_my_dad btw thanks

I watched the 7 replay on record. Ling was very positive about MFC and very critical of Geelong

I can make an argument that the skills or lack of skills of the bottom 6 is possibly less important in the modern game. It more important that they can follow team rules and execute their defined role. In a tight GF finish, luck - Milne's bounce; and skill - Scarlett's toe poke can make the difference. I plead guilty of saying earlier this year that ANB's skill errors could cost us a GF but really that's not right, he plays his role very well and will be hit and miss with his finishing. List management and the salary cap means every team will have an ANB in it. Ultimately it's a combination of every team member adhering to a successful team system and whether enough the top echelon can deliver excellence on the day that matters. I agree it's not just about the top 6. I'm confident we'll be good against Geelong this week and it's reasonably clear their top 6 players are superior to ours. We lost at Geelong this year because Ablett and Hawkins got a hold of us in the last quarter. Dangerfield, Ablett, Selwood, Hawkins, Duncan and Stewart are probably better than the best 6 we will field - that's partly because some of our best players are still young and have not reached their peak and partly because Hogan and Lever are out. I do think Geelong's quality drops off faster than ours. But I think it's our contested game style and attacking power that will make us competitive and Max and Clarry will need to fire.

Yes that's a realistic line-up. The 3 talls forwards are holding out AVB, Hannan and Kent The 3 tall backs are holding out J.Smith and Hunt