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Trengove is UFA. No-one needs to trade to get him.

Yep, I feel confident that it would take more than 10 + 27 for Lever + 40 (assuming Kent = Balic). The closest we might get to your 10 + 27 is 10 + 2018 1st for Lever + 35. Depending on how our 2018 1st is valued (12, 13?) they're about equal in points, but I think Adelaide would prefer the latter.

I like your points measurement and am very happy to go with that. http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/Father-son-bidding-system.pdf I make 10 + 27 = 1395 + 703 = 2098. It only needs to be more than that and I win But it will get complicated if future picks and players get involved - we may need an impartial judge. Let's hope we have to decide - because we have Lever!

Hold the phone!

Yes, I bet you a donation to Demonland that it will take more than that to get it done.

if 10 + 27 = 14 + 16 and 14 + 16 = Lever then 10 + 27 = Lever

Yes but if 10 and 27 get us 14 and 16 which we pass on for Lever, then 10 and 27 should get Lever - there's a logic failure there. FWIW I think it will (and should) take more than 10 and 27 for Lever.

Agree with that!

It's not really my argument, it's my observation of FD action and deduction about FD thinking.

I don't think we want all 3 in the back-line together - when Frost became available for selection earlier in the year Oscar went out. Then TMac went into the ruck/fwd and Oscar and Frost were together back. Now Pedo has hit form, TMac has gone back and Frost is out. I don't see a balanced set up with all 3 in. Axis of Bob posted a comparison of developing tall backs earlier in the year which showed that Oscar is well advanced - many posters can only see what's right in front of their nose and have little ability to project potential development. I agree that TMac, OMac, Frost is a reasonable set-up and that's why I don't see KPB as a priority, but clearly the FD do and if so then with limited list size and resources we don't want to be over-invested in this area and so Frost is tradeable. It will be fascinating to see how the back-line structures if we get Lever - with TMac, OMac, Lever and Hibberd all fit back there?

I don't think KPB is a our biggest need but evidence points to the FD think it is and are very keen on Lever. If that's true then there's many people in this thread struggling to stitch the logic together. If the FD think that we need a KPB that means they think the current set aren't quite good enough. Therefore some are tradeable. Oscar is in the team, Frost is out. Frost is tradeable. I like Frost - his size and speed is rare and they are great attributes for zone defence, but the logic is there.

I don't know if you're joking

There's probably a Clayton Oliver thread on the Saints board too ...

If we land Lever then Frost becomes a very valuable trade option. I can't see Lever, OMac, Frost and Hibberd all in the same backline and we have TMac forward who could go back in case of injury. With Weid and Keilty coming through we developing tall options. 2017 1st + ANB would be a great result.

Near Kew or far Kew?

No MFC player thread on the first 3 pages of BF Trade & Draft: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/drafts-trading-free-agency.61/

According to the Goodwin mantra this group is creating its own history. On that basis though we've lost to North once so we have history for the first time and need to rectify it by winning this week. I think that first encounter will sting the team, it's a pity Bernard is not playing, he has some skin in it with Cunnington.

Lucky for May that Casboult can't kick.

Agree

So if we acquired May you'd trade one of them?

I'd prefer Zak Jones to May, price considered.

I've got Salem and Lewis named on the wings for that very reason. When I look at that line-up I see Vince, Lewis and Jones nearer to the end than the start and likewise for Pedersen. TMac and Frost are both yet to hit their prime. Mid and forward are where the issues are IMO.

Injuries allowing, we're going to be playing a 22 something like this at the end of this year: B: Jetta TMac Hibberd HB: Hunt Frost J.Smith C: Salem Oliver Lewis HF: Petracca Pedersen Hannan F: Garlett Hogan Watts R: Gawn Jones Viney I: Vince Tyson Melksham Stretch OMac and Weid aren't in that team. I just don't see the great need for May or Lever. If they push someone out of that back-line then we end up with one less mid and that's less balanced IMO. There's Brayshaw and VDB to hopefully get over their injuries too. I think more midfield class and tall forward is more important.

I think we need more "Salem" i.e. Stretch ahead of more "Hunt" i.e. Z.Jones

Coaches votes.