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Good get!

Don't have an answer but they look like player numbers, game points margins or draft pick numbers to me

West Coast 12 changes end of 2017 = Premiership 2018 ???

Posted this earier in the thread but looks like it's worth a repeat ... A lot of discussion about perceived large list changes. Here's the numbers from last year: https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.triplem.com.au/sport/afl/news/2017-afl-retirements-and-delistings/amp Adelaide 8. Brisbane 12. Carlton 13. Collingwood 8. Essendon 8. Fremantle 12. Geelong 7. Gold Coast 12. GWS 8. Hawthorn 8. Melbourne 8. North 8. Port 11. Richmond 7. Saints 8. Sydney 8. West Coast 12. Dogs 9. 8 is the magic number, minimum is two 7s. Our projected number of around 10 is not an outlier. WC 12 and in the GF

No Mahoney No Oliver

Wonder why Johnstone announcement was delayed and not rolled up with the others. Maybe his end of season interview was delayed for some reason. Otherwise something has changed in the meantime?

West Coast have up until Monday 15 October to match any RFA offer and force a trade: Friday, 5 October: Restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period starts. Monday, 8 October 10am: NAB AFL Trade Period starts. Friday, 12 October 5pm: Close of restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period. Monday, 15 October 2pm: AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends. There's time for plenty of water to flow under this bridge.

It could get ugly if he nominates the Eagles though. They have Gaff cap space too.

Weak troll. It might seem like a cute joke but the ignorant here will believe this and run with it. You should know better.

Agree and if Kent follows this path then he will not be part of the Demon family going forward and likely be booed in all future meetings with St.Kilda, after destroying the legacy of a significant part of his career. He'll be retired a long time.

Correct and well said but you shouldn't need to do it. I have already posted this in the thread and it's far from the first time. It is hard to understand why @Dr.D continues to post wrong information about historical trades and then makes incorrect assumptions based on these errors. The real information is easy to find on the internet. Mahoney and ream have done a tremendous list management job recently, not least creatively trading up for Oliver and Weed. We had @goodwindees telling us we should be "harder" and more like Essendon. When I challenged him to provide a list of Dodoro's trading coups all I got was crickets. There's an agenda of unjustified outrage among some posters who use misinformation and ignorance as fuel.

Totally shiit attitude. Hysterical premature lachrymation. #ETjellyfish

Too much assumption in this thread Freo can get Ports picks. Freo's best pick will be 5 and Lukosius and Rankine are tipped to go earlier at GC 2 or 3, Saints 4.

If you were Norf's list manager what would you do? They are in draft no mans land. They could trade out say Goldie keep Preuss and go to the draft. But they probably wouldn't get enough difference in the deal. I think they've got to go for it. It could be California or bust though.

Can't knock Norf for having a dip. Otherwise they are locked in mid table mediocrity. They have a solid base of senior talent across the board with Tarrant, Brown, Goldstein, Higgins, Cunnington. Add genuine talent in Gaff, Polec and Hall and they could jump up to contend. Relatively weak teams have been winning big lately. The biggest issue for them may be the disparity in pay for the newcomers vs the incumbents. They must've sold the ultimate success dream to the incumbents and if it comes everyone is happy but if it doesn't - even finishing 2nd - cracks will form. They've gotta punt though I think.

Unrealised potential.

Sorry, I didn't have the adjusted picks after Academy and compensation picks so it was actually a bit different in the wash (I've corrected it above now): Treloar + 33 for 9 + 8 (next year) + 63 Treloar + 563 for 1469 + 1551 + 112 means Treloar for 2569, pick 2 = 2517

Just to be completely clear it was Treloar + 33 for 9 + 8 (next year) + 63 A 2nd rounder came back to GWS.

it's the nature of the beast. I should add Ben Kennedy and Pat McKenna in there too

I think there are 3 kinds of trades for players: Blockbusters with early picks and big salary involved: e.g. Lever, May Role players for known quantities: e.g. Vince, Lewis, Hibberd, Melksham, Garlett, Tyson, Bugg, Preuss Speculation for players that have unrealised potential: Frost, Balic, McKenna, Kennedy, KK In some ways #3 are most interesting

Norf fans on BF claiming (in the Preuss thread) they have Josh Kelly in the bag next year too on a handshake deal with GWS, even with Gaff, Polec and Hall coming in this year. Must have bottomless salary cap.

If VDB and Tyson are traded, the midfield before any additions looks like: Core (5): Jones, Harmes, Viney, Brayshaw, Oliver Mid/Fwds and Mid/Backs (4): Petracca, ANB, Fritsch, Salem Fringe (2): Stretch, JKH Development (2): Maynard, Baker

He is out of contract at the end of 2019 but he is not a free agent then. Scroll back through the thread if you need verification, it has been explained a number of times.

It looks like the fact that Hogan is not a free agent next year has to be re-stated on every page of this thread.