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and the flipside of this?

I'm unconvinced that David Matthews will authorise that - I reckon they'll be playing to win.

I'm eyeing this match with more trepidation than I have for as long as I can remember, the outcome is uncertain and the consequences of a loss are unpredictable.

I'd rather go to jail than watch TFS, but he said that did he? - that he never talked to Mick Malthouse during MFC's coach hiring process - and then he hired Mick's right hand man. OK.

I think that's what you're seeing - how much more drastic do you want? "We need big changes to ever be successfull!!!" "Oooh I don't like those changes, the pain, the pain ..."

worthless thread - take it to the Locker Room Farce and I'll delete your posts there as required

you give conspiracy theorists a bad name

Yes, I would have preferred that Garry helped Jim find someone better qualified and more suitable.

Mark Maclure is a dinosaur, but he made an incisive observation when he pointed out that Garry had no place questioning Mark Neeld starting the captains on the bench against Geelong when he had appointed him as coach. So typical of all the issues I have about Garry's involvement in club business.

Ironic that Garry appointed Mark Neeld to clean up these antics.

I reckon it went something like this ... Garry spoke to Mick when the Pies were absolutely towelling everyone up last season possibly to see whether he'd take the job. Mick said he wouldn't be coaching in 2012 but gave a roaring endorsement to Neeld. The coaching selection panel pushed forward on that basis. As RB points out - many of the best hires come from reliable recommendations. If that's the way it panned out it's flawed because it didn't canvas all the options and that's a worry. But it doesn't mean we got the wrong guy. It is very possible that what's happening right now, although unforeseen, is exactly what this club needs to happen to be successful. There's a certain irony about "Dollars" appointment of Mark Neeld and the path we've now gone down with player behaviour and attitudes.

Where does the MFC player culture of selfishness and smug self-satisfaction with modest achievements trace back to?

Yes, I'm not sure where the bad rap for Mark Jamar is coming from - he's been rucking well, is in the leadership group (contrary to Caro's article), performed well of the Game Plan and strongly indicated he wants to sign with the club.

wowee-wee-wow!

STOP PRESS!!! Neeld excludes poorly performing leaders from leadership group, makes them train harder than they ever have and requires them to follow strict team rules that a new to them in 10+ years of playing and they crack the sh1ts and don't give 100% on game day. Thank your local deity - you've finally cracked the code for us all.

Which post is that - I read Ron's post: and can't see anything in there to support your claim Maybe you and Ron had some PM traffic that's confusing you?

Exactly, at least be smart enough not to throw petrol on the fire.

Sometimes during a 2 hour match something funny will be said, that incident could even be mischieviously replayed out of context. Players will no doubt encounter opposition players that they have shared experiences with on international rules or U18 and it's reasonable to expect some exchange of pleasantries even after a thumping. But IMO these are the only acceptable circumstances. When a player is playing for or watching Melbourne or Casey he is on the job. I hope the club will identify players who don't understand this and re-educate or eliminate them.

Google search - I imagine you've heard of it? So amusing - they need to leave a door open for THE search engine and that search engine doesn't have any need to close the door behind it

And you're staying a virgin until Jessica Alba sees the light?

this isn't going to end well ...

I've wondered if Neeld's mates at Collingwood would be off-limits for poaching. Clearly they're the players he knows best, but also he's got a strong relationship and alliance to FD people still there and I think that's important - there are 16 other teams to hit - I wouldn't blame him if he said they're off-limits, but I hope he doesn't.

We do need another marking target forward. For various reasons Watts, Martin and Sellar aren't it. Howe and Jurrah are 3rd tall options not keys. We would be better off playing Clark mainly forward and relieving Jamar in the ruck. Jamar played 84% game time on Friday - he can ruck 75% of the game and Clark 25% if we have another genuine target. As posted earlier - if the offer drives Cloke's price up and Sidebottom or Beams fall out then - hey!!!