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I don't think you can use that arithmetic methodology directly on this issue. Following that logic, it would be better to have O.Baker (4/10), S.Weideman (4/10), K.Turner (2/10), D.Smith (2/10) and F.Rosman (2/10) than C.Petracca (10/10). The point is that Petracca and Reid (allegedly) are in a whole higher echelon than all those other players.

I think it's unfair for you to project avarice onto Ben Brown who is one of the most ethical and giving AFL footballers going around. If he thinks he can go on to to fulfil his contract and make a contribution then I'm inclined to trust him. What exactly should Tim Lamb have done differently? We secured Brown on a very reasonable contract and at a low trade price and he was instrumental in our 2021 flag win. I'm not sure how Lamb can force Brown to retire especially when we have to pay him under the 2024 cap anyway. We've got 4 remaining list spots and we've already made 3 changes. That's reasonable. We can take Kynan Brown if we rate him sufficiently - let's see what happens before "wetting your pants".

Can help us fund the new home base?

That would certainly change my view of the risk if it pans out that way.

@Demon Dynasty - you can rest easy - if all of Watson, Sanders, Curtin and Caddy are gone by our pick at 7, along with certainties Reid and Walter, that would be a stupendous result because we'd have the choice of McKercher and Duursma. Unfortunately that's not going to happen.

Because the Tasmanian team will be building a list from scratch and they'll need 42 players, including as many talented Tasmanians as possible, so the contract offers for them, if they are any good, will be irresistible and the AFL will provide special avenues for the players to move and compensation to teams losing these players. WA and SA teams currently only have a limited number of list spots to fill and there's no special compensation involved, players have to move through standard trade or FA. There's a risk drafting Tasmanian players now, particularly for teams in our position - we will need ready-to-go replacements for our stars coming to end of their careers at the time of the Tasmanian team introduction, we won't be wanting draft pick compensation to start all over again.

That is simply incorrect. Most are saying our pick 6 will become pick 7 with a successful Walter bid. The medium term consensus top 8 has been very consistent and indicates that at least 2 of Caddy, Sanders, Curtin or Watson will be available at pick 7: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1054452/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-october-ranking Reid, Walter, Duursma, McKercher, Watson, Curtin, Sanders // Caddy https://www.afl.com.au/news/1030664/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-september-ranking Reid, Walter, Duursma, McKercher, Watson, Curtin, Sanders // Caddy https://www.afl.com.au/news/1009306/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-august-ranking Reid, Walter, McKercher, Duursma, Watson, Curtin, Sanders // Caddy https://www.afl.com.au/news/981930/cal-twomeys-2023-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-july-ranking Read, Walter, Watson, McKercher, Curtin, Duursma, Caddy // Read, Sanders

Exactly, it depends on the players we think are going to available at the picks. If we trade 6 and 11 for 2 it's because we think 2 will be a star. Making the blanket statement that 6 and 11 are always better than 2 is what is laughable.

Yeah right, like last time we had pick 2. Christian Petracca or Caleb Marchbank plus Liam Duggan? You must be laughing so hard!

Yes, they said "no" to that offer.

North already offered 2 plus 15 and 17 for 1 and 23 and WC said no.

I love Jack Viney but that's some serious over-rating

This is a confusing and vaguely sexist post. I don't believe the AFL introduced AFLW to specifically grow female and family supporter numbers, they introduced it because there was a readiness in the game and to grow the entire support base. AFL has always been well supported by women, men and families. I can't agree with your assertion that "Women need to talk of the women players around the water coolers and bbqs not the men players, steer the conversations about the game to women involvement, etc. In short a cultural change that needs support by women." The game will be talked about by everyone and it's not women's obligation to focus entirely on AFLW. They can freely talk about both men's and women's football. In my family we talk about the exploits of Petracca, Hanks, Kossie, Hore, Gawn and Bannan. It helps that we've got great teams in both competitions.

Frankly I'd be very happy with that, especially if we get Curtin at 6.

Are you sure North think Duursma > McKercher?

I'm going all in, assuming we like Duursma ... WC give 1 + 23 get 2 + 6 + 42 - result: 2, 6, 37, 42, 58 North give 2 + 3 + 18 get 1 + 11 + F1 - result: 1, 11, 15, 17, 57 + F1 MFC give 6 + 11 + F1 + 42 get 3 + 18 + 23 - result 3, 18, 23, minus F1 23 is a valuable pick because it's the first pick in round 2 on night 2 and clubs who want a slider will pay a F1 for it. You can leave the F1 and 18 out of it if you prefer.

Naarm vs North clash for top of the table - less than 3k at Princes Park ... I was there and it was a great win. But proportionally, I don't think they want that equation?

I'm a fan of our AFLW team and the standard of footy across the league is dramatically improving. The fact is they don't draw the same attendance or media eyeballs as the men yet and payments are consequently a lot less.

We should be signalling to WC that we love Curtin and are happy to take him at 6 and don't feel any need to trade up. Reverse the onus on them trading picks and see if they can come up with an attractive offer to us.

Appropriate user name! Phone me next time you're going into the surf with a dislocated shoulder and I'll bring the popcorn.

Surely someone drafts Brown in the ND and we have to match

They're not planning to do that

So that probably means we can take two picks and Kynan Brown if we want to and retain Melksham on the Primary list and still have a Rookie slot available. Or if KB doesn't get drafted we can just list him as a Rookie.

Are we putting a line through BBB or will he be in the VFL - make up your mind. TMac was playing at the end of 2023, there's no reason why he won't start the 2024 season. OK if Fullarton is starting VFL ruck and Verrall is 2nd ruck then he'll be in the forward line. Jefferson is presumably the KPF future, that's why we used a first rounder to draft him, it probably makes sense to play him in that role at Casey. That still means, like I posted - BBB, TMac, Schache, Fullarton/Verrall, Smith, Jefferson and KFW - 7 tall forwards at Casey.

If we go with Petty and JVR as KPFs for MFC with Fritsch and McAdam in support then we're going to have a massive logjam of tall forwards at Casey assuming early season fitness: TMac, BBB, Smith, Schache, Fullarton, Jefferson, KFW - assuming Verrall leads the Casey ruck. I'd be playing at least one back.