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True, but we do have to lose to the Tigers. That will be one game I go to that I will hate to be at. I hope Richo is back... And Tambling continue his emergence... And Mitch Morton goes nuts... And Jack Riewoldt stops being awful...

I don't care what his bloody nickname is: he had 12 touches, 4 contested marks, 4 assists, and kicked 4 goals. The best game by a forward since Neita.

You said yourself after the Tigers loss (I saw it in a bumped thread) that you saw Scully in Yellow and Black. The colours may changed to purple, green, and white... We must lose the Tigers game but its Green's 200th, and LJ's jumper presentation. It's going to be hard to lose. And we can't get much younger - Casey has only Watts, Bail, and Cheney up and running. The rest are injured. God, I hate PA...

Well said, 45H. He's a baby folks. So stop posting like trolls.

Excuse me, Rhino but I was not one of the hennypenny crowd that emerged due to the three awful weeks starting with Collingwood. I maintain a positive outlook for our medium term future but have always said that, like yourself and H and others, that two picks in the top 4 would be the best outcome for the season. I'm not going to rattle off the names that make me believe we will be a flag chance in 4+ years time but I believe we can be even without the PP. But the PP is desired and Bailey should bring back Watts, Cheney, McKenzie, etc for the Tigers game. I hate saying it - but we have to lose that game. It would be a big win for our future.

I was thinking about the 'brackets' and whether it might be misinterpreted. Didn't mean it as a slight, more of an aside. But it still pathetic for a side like PA to let two 20 year olds get 8 goals.

I don't know if we have the ability to do that... Freo for mine is a lock. We can lose to NM at the worst stadium in the world. But Round 18 we play the Tigers in a game that both teams would love to lose, but it will be Green's 200th and before the match Jurrah's jumper will be given to the Yuendumu community. Lot to play for... YM is right - we look to have enough talent to challenge for a flag in 4+ years time. Hannabal is also right - the health of the list demands we lose to the Tigers, to give ourselves the best chance to win that flag in 4+ years time. We will see, but I have already predicted a win today would mean no PP and I stick by that prognostication. It's frustrating but Bailey and the club will have me as a member no matter what the next 7 weeks hold. But, [censored], I want a flag...

...they didn't. And because they didn't we get an artificial win against a middling side that will mean 5 wins and no PP. I don't blame the coaching staff; we are as young as possible - only Watts and Cheney are fit kids that could have made us younger. Who knew that PA would be so pathetic that two 20 year olds (one from a non-football state, and the other from a non-english speaking community) would kick 8 between them and win us the game?

Great stuff from Ricky. Our forward line is coached very well by Mahoney; several times Petterd, Jurrah, and Robbo had one-on-one contests with space to work in. Really pleasing.

You are either underestimating us, or overestimating Rich and Freo. If we beat PA, we will not get the PP. Simple as that. HT is right. It would be a bittersweet victory. I would enjoy it, but driving home, I would realise what it means.

It should be 'who has missed the most games from a generally agreed starting 22?' Hawthorn would be streets ahead but we wouldn't be far behind with Grimes (4), Green (4), Jamar (9), Garland (21), Maric (9), Buckley (9), McDonald (4), Whelan (2), Wheatley (8), Wonna (14?), and Bate, Warnock, Rivers, Jones, and Frawley all missing a game (People can make their own judgements on whether Buckley or Maric were in the 'best 22' at the start of the season, Buckley certainly did play Rd 1). That is 89 games all up. We have only 5 players to play every game of the season. And now, just when we want to blood some kids - Garland, Meesen, Maric, Blease, and Strauss are out for the season, and Buckley, Wonaeamirri, Spencer, and McNamara are struggling with injury. For those upset that Dunn will come in and not a youngster, the only fit kids younger than Dunn are Watts, McKenzie, Cheney, Bail, and Batram.

You better turn up PA...

It's pretty sad. All that bloody talent. The 2nd and 3rd quarters against Adelaide in that SF... And we got away with grand larceny it seems... Lethal Leigh did them a huge favour on his way out...

No offence to JB but this encapsualtes why I'm not a fan of the '3 word analysis.' I mean, why three words? Do we all have ADHD? Short attention spans? We can't give a sentence on each player? 10 words will do, pure adjectives would be fine. I know there is an audience for them and that's great as JB's OP generates discussion. Although a lot of the follow up posts by JB are 'qualifying' posts explaining his 3 words. So give a bit more JB in the OP and you will have to write less explaining your assessments. Anyway... Grimes named as rover? Probably a good day to give him half a game in the guts.

Good deductions. Obviously the only one with a chance of being dropped from that extended bench is Bennell and I would think he would stay.

Hear hear. I want as many people as possible to come back to the club, especially those involved in the unpleasantness in '96. But if are not a member because of the away strip or the colour of the shorts, you're not worth getting the welcome mat out. Seriously, buck up. You want us to be the Demons? Start with yourself, and HTFU.

As per the conversation above - if we play Freo on 4 wins I don't think Bailey and Co. will do what HAS to be done, and that Hannabal has faith in the MFC doing - losing against Freo to ensure the PP. I just hope PA and NM turn up when they play us because we will find it difficult to lose to Richmond and Freo.

Why are you gracing Strawberry Fields? Not pissing off enough people over at D'Ology? Your whole existence is sh!t-stirring - now that's pitiful.

Maybe... But that mean Mr Bailey says he might not play...

Details, people.

There are some highly strung people on this site... All three look good, the first one is intriguing because it the famous MFC sticker, 24 of them, stuck together. Second one is your classic two-tone, and the third one has a demon. But I'm going with '24 stickers.' That's number 1. Whose with me?

Unfair. You shouldn't expect people to do what you refuse to do yourself...

Dunn would be my bet if its just one change. I really want Watts though. (I just said that in a very childish voice to myself...)

Well argued. Can't argue with that at all. Except Matty Bate has 18 goals... OMG! Matthew Bate is going to win the Bluey!! I'm going to call those two d!ckheads at Sportsbet and win some MONEY!!

Spot on 45. He was BOG for us against Haw and Coll and has been in the top 5 in losses to BL and Ess (and had a fantastic quarter against Rich). Some of you are too easily pleased. 5-7 good games from a constant tease like Sylvia and he gets this level of blind support?! He gave a roundhouse FCS!! Deserved longer than 3 weeks. And anyone, including the moronic YM, who says Sylvia has been the best player so far this year are insulting Aaron Davey. He has easily been our best player, with Bruce and Moloney behind him.