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If Port don't turn up on Sunday, we can say goodbye to pick 2. It's not up to the Dees, it's up to PA to show up...

He doesn't have the base behind him; shortened PS and, according to CC, wasn't able to do the required speed work. He is toughing it out and has been better than you give credit. Awful disposal against Collingwood but half his possies were contested and had 7 or 8 clearances, the same goes for the Bombers game with less awful disposal. When we are bad everyone looks awful. But he was one of the best in a bad lot. A pathetic thing to say for sure, but required if you are to make an individual judgement of players - which is what we are doing. You can't just lump everyone together into 'the midfield group' and expect to get the right judgement of individuals. Except for the Lions game - he was awful...

Is YM going back and changing his previous, idiotic, posts again? D'Ology have a 'this post was edited on' function and this site desperately needs one... Lest people take YM seriously...

What an indictment?! Dreadful? Going that far? I would have him behind only Bruce, Davey, and Moloney in the Bluey. He's been slow, but has competed very well after a very poor first three rounds. Just as an aside, I heard CC on 3AW mention that Brock didn't do any speed work in the PS and that we should expect him to get better in that department next season.

There should be more love for Bate, his has been our most consistent forward this year. Provides a great target. Man, I am constantly defending him on this forum. I just think he is better than people give him credit.

It is my firm view that we cannot carry two pure ruckmen in the 22. Jamar, Meesen, and Spencer are similar in that regard and so PJ has a chance to get that backup ruckman slot longterm. A chance that is getting smaller and smaller as Martin continues to progress. It's funny how many of us criticised Bailey for throwing Martin around the ground, but the reality is our backline doesn't need him long term like our ruck and forward division need him. He is a far from finished product but he makes his presence felt and his disposals count.

In fairness to him, and by extension, your username, he had a good 5 weeks leading into a diabolical match last weekend.

Don't encourage him people.

Welcome to the real world champ. More people come to watch teams when they are winning.

You'd hope it would be an eff load better. They are going great guns, haven't lost a match, and have out-and-out stars like Riewoldt, Goddard, Dal Santo, and Hayes. No comparison at all.

He won't cut it as a forward alone. But his athleticism will give him a chance to be a back-up ruckman for a decade: roaming forward, back, linking in midfield, and relieving Jamar/Meesen/Spencer. He is taking away PJ's position here folks.

That's ironic, considering the Saints supporters I know have been dissappointed with Fisher's kicking this year... And three exclamation marks? Really?

Jetta had the most scoring assists and 6 tackles. Provided great pressure in our forward line. Deserves more recognition for his efforts from the fans.

And One will replay it a few times. Like Sunday night at 11.50pm.

Not knowing what the future holds for these two talents, I did feel relief yesterday for one thing... We got the natural footy player. With the vision and footy IQ that comes with that. I just feel that in the last 6 or 7 years there has been an unwarranted obsession with turning athletes into footy players, rather than footy players into athletes. Not suggesting NN doesn't have footy nous, but it is somewhat below our number 4.

Where is D'Lands' fundamental flaw (Freak) talking about Jack Grimes' fundamental flaw? Just having some fun Freak... But defend yourself man! Tell me why I shouldn't believe my lying eyes...

I said sometimes...

It was pure dressage that little 'kick-out.' Work in progress is Stefan's kicking...

Where the hell is Freak?! He should be arguing now that Jack has a fundamental flaw in his kicking. Davey was mercilessly tagged and Grimes, at 20, decided that this game was his to be the set-up man off half back. Great stuff. Effing good kicking too...

Excuse me, mate. I was there when we played this same mob at Optus Oval and 9000 dragged themselves along. I was expecting sub 20k and 23k was a pleasant suprise with about 2k of them being WCE supporters. I think you need to sit down for a moment and collect your thoughts.

He might be moved on to progress the list, but I am sure you cheered loudly as he sealed the game today as he has so many games for the club we all love. Robbo is, and always will be, a great player for this club. Even with his excesses, sometimes because of them... Show some respect.

Moving the thread slighty off (the unfair) topic... There was another backup ruckman of the future that I was interested in - he can play forward, back, but may need some work on his kicking. Stefan Martin could invaluable as a relief ruckman for Jamar/Meesen/Spencer for a decade. Does not bode well for PJ though, who has equisite skills, but turns the ball over far more than Martin.

Rivers had some clangers. Who gives a flying frenchman when he goes back with the flight and does the kind of things that we, as supporters, take for granted. Who here doesn't know the feeling of holding your breath as you look upon the MCG as an opponent kicks an up and under toward the square and you see Jared Rivers, with eyes unwavering, look at the football he is about to mark or spoil? Robbo was Robbo. His bad habits would only be eradicated by brave selection many years ago. Today we take the great with the awful, and hope that the same bad habits don't get transferred to a young Liam Jurrah. Great game never-the-less.

I have to tell you, joeboy, I really don't like the 'three-word summary' idea. I guess its good to get the clift notes on how each player is going but I like a bit of depth. Sometimes you need more than three words. Anyway... Jetta had 7 touches and 6 tackles and 3 assists. Again. Limited influence? Maybe... But when the ball was near he wanted it, and helped his teammates get it. Bate was the driving force across half forward. Selwood said after the game that the Eagles defence set-up with nullifying Bate across half forward. He drew the ball and his unco-ordinated kicking may annoy Freak but it is incredibly, and undeniably, effective. The guy can kick the footy. McLean was great, and so was Moloney, and Jones brave. Our middle tier players stood up.

Morabito is on the wing... Could push Davey forward in later years? We could use an outside mid or two?