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Yeah, or he is waiting to see what club he might possibly work for as he has no prospective immediate Boss (head of the FD) and a Board in flux. Everything is a conspiracy in AFL circles isn't it. Healy and Sheahan are having fun with him - that I can confirm first hand. Mike thinks he should do it but doesn't know more than that, he also thinks we shouldn't baulk at any price but Redleg told us that last week.

Gawn has had two knee re-constructions and by his own admission - couldn't run out the game against the Dogs. Spencer has yet to cement himself as an AFL standard ruckman. Fitzpatrick does not look like being capable of first ruck and I don't believe will be near making the best 22 once Hogan and Clark are fit and available. Gawn should not have to be first ruck in 2014. Nor should he be relied upon to be that. Spencer and Jamar should still be fighting it out for that in 2014. I just don't see how trading Jamar for not much, because that is what you will get, is going to make us better in 2014.

Wait, wait, wait...Harry O told Buckley to "Eat a D!ck"? You know what...I have always liked that Harry.

We need a Board to make the decision, surely? Jackson has to find us a coach and that is great, but he also has to find a group of Demons to sit on the effing Board to validate the decision on any appointment. And, again, we don't have a Board. Why should we have a coach before we have a Board? And better yet, why should anyone make a decision to be a head coach when he doesn't know who he is working for?

Those damn assistant coaches!! Even when it was the poor list, the terrible head coach, the poor skill execution - I knew it was the Assistant Coaches!

You are just looking for someone to bite with that remark. Cooney will go to a team with a chance of winning if he leaves at all.

I will just run through the options for those who are unsure of what will happen; 1. Sylvia re-signs with us. 2. Sylvia leaves for another team through free agency - we don't bring any FA in and receive a probable 2nd round pick (ND22). 3. Sylvia leaves and we pick up a comparable, or near comparable FA - we do't get any compensation for him leaving. You can trade RFA but no-one has tried to trade an Unrestricted FA and I don't think the AFL will allow it - the former club has no hold over the player. I hope he stays but it is up to him. I am not about to beg Colin to stick around, he should make the hard decision and finish his career with the MFC.

There is no VL anymore. Jamar and Sylvia take a spot on the Primary List. The financial situation is they can be paid $100k outside the cap but that doesn't really worry us.

Or re-draft him as a rookie. Or draft someone to fill that role in Delisted FA. Or from the state leagues.

And if we pick him as a kid - let him play at Casey for a few years.

What an excellent thing to say.

No offence, pm, but what kind of footy club gets rid of one its best players two years after he took a massive leap of faith to come here? I am all for being ruthless to get some mids into the team but trading Clark is not the way. Looking past the fact that his foot, while I hear it is on the mend, would render his trade value near worthless. Dawes is a battering ram that will take pressure of Hogan, and Clark is a athletic CHF that can also be 2nd ruck. If we want to be ruthless we should be looking in the direction of Watts and Howe and while I understand people have issues trading them. It would make more sense than Clark.

The last time Garland was a serious contender to be dropped was about 2010. And he has always shown more as a defender than Dunn. I know the point you are trying to make about Watts but Garland's story is not the same; he has always been fine with physicality, his issues were skill execution and the enormous brain fades that he seems to do from time to time.

To what? To whom? We haven't even begun the process of beginning the process in the search for a new coach. We can't interview coaches from other clubs until the season is over. This is going to take a while. Let's leave this for a bit, no other club is on the market at the moment and let's get a Board together and then we can look at the FD and the coach. Why in the world do people think that Roos should come to us when we don't even have a Board for him to work for?

GNF - outside of your statement that Neeld was a terrible coach. All of the rest I am not about to swallow. He was here for 18 months, so list management and player development are irrelevant judgements. His game style involved us being the team that played on the most from marks in the league - so that hardly falls into this around the boundary nonsense that he got tarred with. And, again, he was here for 18 months, you can barely justify firing a coach after one season. And as for the board, if they did fire a coach they had installed a year earlier I dare say we would be talking about them in the past tense regardless. As for the 5 years setback - what a crock. Neeld is a failure but we are paying for past failures right now. We will see whether the tiny legacy of Neeld can be salvage in the next few years. But he wasn't the destructive force you imply. The players didn't respond to the coach. The club responded with his firing. It happens. The club continues on.

If Howe doesn't show anything in the middle, he won't be apart of the 'right midfield.' If Hogan, Dawes, Clark, and Gawn are enough in the forward line, Watts can be traded for someone apart of the 'right midfield.'

Waiting game. And we will for a while yet.

Perhaps you should read the post before providing half-cogent, dismissive replies.

For those he are squeamish about talking about list turnover in July - this thread is not for you... LIST MANAGEMENT - A Red & Blue October When it comes to deletions from the list every year I like to have a look at what is the minimum amount of talent we want to bring in and tailor the deletions from the list based on what we can bring in. For example, if cutting Tynan brings in ND96 then it would not be worth cutting Tynan. First we should look at what we WILL bring in, as opposed to incoming FAs and trades. 1. Hogan 2. ND2 3. ND21 4. ND41 5. PSD2 6. ND61 7. ND82 8. RU - Magner 9. RU - Clisby (R - has extra year) 10. ND95 11. ND105 12. ND111 Sylvia possibly leaving takes care of itself, I expect a pick following our second round pick (ND22). The possible deletions can be any fringe player of course, but the easiest to move are those out of contract. This is my order of deletion preference for those OOC: MacDonald, Gillies, Jetta, Davis, Sellar, Rodan, Davey, Nicholson, Tynan, Fitzpatrick, Taggert, Gawn, and Watts. From here we evaluate each place on the list against its replacement: MacDonald - Hogan Gillies - ND2 Jetta - ND21 Davis - ND41 Sellar - PSD2 Rodan - ND61 Davey - ND82 Nicholson - Magner Tynan - Clisby Fitzpatrick - ND95 Taggert - ND105 Gawn and Watts are obviously not going to be delisted. Those in green are additions that I think are worth the delisting of that player. So I can see 6 definite changes to the list with the future of Davey and Nicholson dependent on whether we get any draft assistance, can attract FAs and/or whether we can trade out players in much the same way Morton and Gysberts were traded. I find this is useful when posters claim we should get rid of Player X without first thinking about what we would bring in.

The forums are separate but equal...

I prefer to look for micro-espressions.

lol

There are so few players that I wouldn't trade for the right midfielder...

Why you are blaming us for us not picking Fyfe I don't know. We were more than happy with the one below taken 9 picks earlier:

Swooper started the thread.