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5 posts up.And he did say astute. If we get it right, we will have what we want, but some are acting like we can't go wrong. I assure you that one or two or three of these sure things just won't back up what their teenage selves did. Let's hope someone else picks that kid for a change.

I don't care. I'm sorry. I don't. Every clash strip is going to offend someone - the perfect clash strip is an oxymoron.

I defend anyone against unfair attacks, they became less unfair as time went on, failures amassed and crises ensued. I posted that I could see Schwab being removed before his last fateful 3 year extension, but we all know what happened after that. If all you have got to do on here is gnash your teeth at McLardy, Schwab, and those that may have been mean to you - why bother? Do you really have time to waste on this hate? We have got half a midfield now, another kid coming in 5 days, Paul effing Roos as coach, and what do you want to do? Fight with all those posters that made you feel inferior. Build a bridge and come join us in the present at some point.

Ok, I have posted this before but there is a dearth of people on my side of the argument chiming in so... Dunn has played about 3 good 'half-seasons' and has been tried in all positions with serious limitations in all areas. His work as a HBF (in the easiest position to play in the world) is not terrible, it's not great as he is not a great defender, but he can hide with The Big Three down there. But the thing that I can't stand is the faux toughness. The jumper punching, the short steps before a contest, the tough talk without the walk - I want him to stay and play well and help us get better, but I don't like the way he has gone about his footy, and I do not see a future for him past 2014/2015, especially if Grimes is pushed out of the midfield. We have this thread every year (although this is a mutated training thread) and I think it is because we still see him as an up-and-coming fringe player ready for bigger things: he is 27 next year and yet to cement a position in the 22. We have Matt Jones being dismissed as an AFL player by some on here as is too old and reached his peak. He is 6 months younger than Dunn, has played one season, and has already had a better AFL season than Dunn. Why the disconnect?

You shouldn't have bothered jnrmac, this thread simply provided a vehicle for vitriol. The failure of the McLardy presidency and of Schwab as CEO is there for all to see, document, lament, and move on from. They're all Demons and they will be there when the tide turns and you can do what you like but I will be there singing the song with them - they are not evil.

While we are hitting all the touchstones while in the sandpit - what design would you like for the away jumper?

If it's astute. 37% of Top 10 draftees between 1999 and 2005 did not, and will not, play 100 games. Clark and Ellis are not included in that number - Clark will soon play 100, Ellis is a season away. 47% of Top 10 draftees between 1999 and 2005 have played, or will play, 150 games. The player taken at Pick 9 in that time has averaged just 70 games with only Clark and Jordan Russell in a position to positively affect that number. I hope it's astute, and not a statistic...

You don't spend first round picks on 'Injury Insurance' ever. You certainly don't do it when you don't have a midfield.

You'd think that wouldn't you...

It's more like:

Ok, we have a couple resident experts when it comes to foot issues... How bad is stress fractures on the foot? Garland had a hot spot didn't he? Steer clear if he gets that far?

Usually. Although I swear I have heard "we'll have the cheese car please" come out of the mouth of Melbourne recruiters once or twice...

That's not how it is, BB. There are 5 cars on the lot and one maybe two of them is the porsche, another two are solid toyotas and there is one made out of cheese and doesn't have an engine.

I don't understand this at all. Limit on development? How do you do that? List management is playing kids, sending players off for surgery early, and retiring players before they need be retired. That is what people commonly refer to as 'tanking.'

Then we don't get Pick 4. Boo hoo. Oh, and this talk about removing compensation has been directed around UFA - not RFA. I can see the argument for UFA - they are players with 10 years service, or periphery players (paid outside the top 10 players) after 8 years service. RFA are 8 year players in their prime and in the top 10 (paid) players at a club. It's a different story and is not apart of the discussion when people are talking about removing compensation picks. The fact that we got ND23 (and with that Vince) for Sylvia is a joke of excellent happenstance. I don't blame anyone for not believing me when I was saying he would bring that for 6 months before it happened - it was ridiculous good fortune.

Fold? Do you really think that? Or are you just being dramatic? This is what will happen: Frawley signs with another club, we either take the Pick 4 on offer as compensation for a RFA, or we attempt to trade him to that club. We would most likely take the Pick 4. That's it. That's the extent of it. The club doesn't fold, it loses a good player and we move on. Because good clubs don't let a player become bigger than the club the way you suggest.

And what happens then?

And if we don't?

Hasn't. He ain't dead.

At some point it might be a waste of money. Again, I hope they don't have any designers on contract and they are just going to ask NB for a normal guernsey with, you know, the right colours. Everything else is peripheral and if worried about for too long - a waste of time and money. You can't criticise Schwab for worrying about these piddly little things and then spend your time worrying about what he did to these piddly little things. I guess when your team is shizen, all you have left is the piddly little things...

And yourenextdipper/Thomo - if I recalled correctly you were very prone to personalising debates with people and criticising the site and the people that run it. This place isn't a democracy - it's run by people who have to 'own' the nonsense we put on here. The quicker posters realise that the more patience and understanding they will have when The Evil Mods Take Their Freedom Away And Treat Them Horribly...

I wrote this in another thread. Our drafting is why we are here but acknowledging failure and moving on is the healthiest thing to do.

My power is quite immense. And 'generally respectful' - so about 80% respectful?

Yep, everyone is playing footy and we are playing dress up in the sandpit and crying...

So the 55th live pick at this stage.