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Ok Mike as I have said we are most vulnerable in the midfield fist use scenario, the stats back this up. so I firmly believe we must continue to build a core of players who can rotate through the midfield and win contested ball and at stoppages. This is purely and simply the reason I think we need to build up our stock of "elite" core first ball get players! Ok?/

Ok fine, take an outside mid as an ongoing priority In fact lets use our first pick on him eh?? If he's that good then don't wait! Anyone else have a problem with that???

"I'm sure our first two picks will be put towards ball winning midfielders," You have answered my question.... that is why Billy Stretch will go as a third rounder!! Thanks for some "Brevity" in this topic!

Oh God you again, well you have got it wrong again Clown, Robbie Flower was before his time as both an inside and outside player and a once in a lifetime player anyone with a modicum of footy knowledge would know that! Which is why you are once again clueless on footy matters! Is Billy Stretch a recreated Flower????? Now Billy Stretch a kid with ah immense talent "Oh My" who wants to play with us "Gee wiz" and by the way, Good! I have not "Written him of" I have said he is worth a third round choice!! THAT IS ALL! You may continue to choose to put words in my mouth as political speak my friend but as I have said before He may well be worth a pick! but to iterate my point Only as a third rounder! Over to you oh great and wise purveyor of footy pedigree!

Ok we'll just play pretend footy then and close our eyes and guess what we might just just open our eyes and all the footy God's will smile on us and say Gee there's chunky Jones trying his guts out again, or there's Dom Tyson gee he's trying as well and et all and so on and so forth.... and meanwhile...... we will continue to get blown outa the water with teams that have inside midfield class! Ok keep in fantasy land my friend and one day,, why you might just get the odd win!!!!

Ah no not enamoured by my thought process just this stupid F#6@*# Message that keeps popping up and saying" An error has occurred You have posted too quickly" WTF IS THIS?? And on Toumpas ah the Jury is well and truly out on that one!

Cheezus H BECAUSE WE NEED INSIDE CLASS FIRST FIRST FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS ADRESS THAT NEED FIRST THEN WHEN WE GET THE FOOTY THEN ADDRESS THE NEXT NEED! HENCE THIRD ROUNDER!! LETS GET MORE INFIELD GRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNTTTT FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRST! HENCE USE OUR FIRST PICK OR SO ON THAT NEED!

Ah, I thought Toumpas was the outside mid we craved!?/?

Ok answer... Well you only have to look back to when a similar player was said to have the same attributes Viz "he has pace, skill, smarts, passion for the mfc, breaks lines, makes good decisions, can win his own ball, does the team thing" Hnmm shades of ah Jimmy Toumpas!!! Well once bitten twice shy my friend! I am all over "Outside Mids" I'll say it once and for all we need inside midfield Grunt!! FIRST GET THE F#*@!*# BALL When that need is met.... with talent and class AKA Pendlebury et al you can draft as many Jimmy Toumpas's and Billy Stretch's as you like! We have one Sam Blease who I rate as a very good outside mid...... and he can't get a game? And so when he probably walks at the end of the year and plays in another side and kills em well where does that leave us! Nup nothing against Stretch or Toumpas for that matter, but they are not what we need at present! If we must then third rounder, No more!

Yep my mail is that he can play, and in reference to other posters re John Butcher he is currently behind One JUICE NEWTON on the goal kicking tally. The tally of 50 for Eddy is good playing mainly Full Forward, Butcher also plays mainly Full forward. Juice currently is third I think on the SANFL Goalkicking list playing as a floating tall between Full Forward and CHF. Ah, I believe as I have said in previous threads, Juice may be on several clubs shortlists as might Eddy and Butcher! Ok GO AHEAD start sledging me all you posters !!!!

Yeah, two time "Coleman Medalist" in a very average f'k'n team And we are......................................................................................???

.......... that to get an almost once in a lifetime player like these that you mention requires insight, foresight and a modicum of luck!! Ah something our recruiting people seem to have, ah not a lot of luck with THIRD ROUNDER NO MORE!! Gospel of the fence!

Ok so we all want to keep a turnover merchant and an indifferent player and not investigate what it would take, to get hold of a bloke who can ( CAN) take a game by the throat! a match winner no less have I got that correct? Now let me see exactly how many of these have we got right now????? Or is it because you guys don't rate Reiwoldt? Is that right? Ok then so if someone like ah Petrie or another key forward ( insert name........................................) was interested in coming across we would say no to a deal like this? have I got that right? Coz if that is the case then we may as well not investigate any potential contracted player swaps because we are ah too unwilling to roll a dice? is that right? Too precious, too comfortable ah and two more, too predictable and complacent to try. Ah I think I get it!! And if unwilling to trade these two are there other ah, too valuable players we would not trade out?? I think as Sydney have proved you have to be totally bold and totally ruthless to build success, to bad not enough on this site want it enough! ah, I get it even more now!

My son suggested this last night! Food for thought. Trade up to trade in so package WATTS and GRIMES to Richmond for RIEWOLDT! ah yep I would do it in a heartbeat!

Ah Theo, right on the money again!! I heard just the very same thing!

Sorry couldn't resist it! Based on other learned footy peoples opinions and most damningly doc Larkins post in the hun today what do posters think he might cop from the tribunal? As I said elsewhere Petrie looked a second away from losing consciousness. I reckon he might be looking at eight which unless Hawks make the GF might see him out this season! Gee even the Hawks were not happy regarding his latest indiscretion. Posters?

I reckon Lake is looking at a very long stretch on the sidelines. I reckon Petrie wasn't far of losing consciousness!

Anyone else think that Zac Dawson and Bootsma are somehow related!???? Well in looks at least! Watch for Sylvia to have a personal best and kick 5 "Telling Goals' and resurrect his career!

Who cares!! As I have been saying, time for the Dees to go it alone!!

Sledge me all you will, that is my mail!! Frawley to Geelong!

Why not!?/ A few home truth's for some. Some are facing the Axe! Period! I see nothing wrong in "Putting it out there"!

Toumpas for Bail?? On what?? a "Stellar" 14 possession game?? paleeeeaase!!

My mail is that he is gone!! Geelong bound!

Right lets put this to bed! I categorically state I was NOT Referring to Toumpas! Period! It might serve your apostolate and ego to think I was but I was not! Those that know my posts on this site will know If I go out on a limb... So be it and if I was referring to Toumpas I would say it! Secondly I do not hate Jimmy Toumpas. PERIOD! Yes I was and still am peeved we did not draft others commensurate to need, but the word Hate is wrongly used in this context! Ok I'll say it once and for all I don't think Jimmy Toumpas will turn out to be the player we hope him to be! That is my opinion! FACT, I HOPE I AM WRONG! I base my experience of playing and coaching and watching senior footy! This is my opinion, Like it or not! Yes fantasy or not first use in todays game is vital, contested footy is vital! This is the Gospel of the FENCE!!

I can see where you are coming from BUT all these outside mids have strong core bodies and quickness to match. At 180 cm and skinny is Stretch of this ilk? Not saying that he may not be worth a pick at some point but by Jasus H we would want to be very sure that he will develop. I couldn't stand another Toumpas or Morton scenario for an early pick which backfires. Still reckon we need another strong in an under with speed!