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Back on the thread, Couldn't imagine in my wildest dreams Ollie Wines ever putting in some short steps to avoid forceful contact, unlike one of ours who needs to learn more about hard ball gets and putting his body in consistently!

Paul Callery was a true rover and had a very impressive AFL/VFL Record! 198 games 200 goals. Morrish Medalist , Leading goalkicker in 1971 A man of principle, when Tiger Ridley was sacked, in a show of loyalty he went to St.Kilda and played exceptionally well!

Never Ever could understand how he even made the list much less stayed on it. Lacks awareness, Speed, X factor, and his supposed kicking skills are not that good ( witness his shocking turnover last week) I know those that love him say Yeah but he had a badly broken leg but he clearly aint up to it and never will be! Plenty in front for his place!

Quote by Ken Hinkley in todays Hun on Ollie Wines: "This kid is going to be a serious player... you are nearly not going to be able to stop him when he wants the ball" Gee wouldn't Roosy have loved to have drafted this kid? Hnmm a player that really wants the ball? You can't have too many of those? Eh?

Jack Watts ( just to shut a few around here up!)

The fact that Lyon is still getting a game is an indictment on Australia's spin bowling stocks What have we tried since Warne 10-15 others Farrrrrrr out! We now continue with (or not turn to) a bloke who has not ONCE won a game for Australia, even on crumbling day 5 pitches! FACE IT NATHAN LYON IS NOT A MATCH WINNER!! FAWAD AHMED POTENTIALLY IS and for all facts and stats created. Time to be bold! Oh, Sorry Mr. Inverarity boldness was never your suite!

POMS TO WIN IN SERIES WHITEWASH Putting on my soothsayer hat I predict 1 Watson to break down for yet the Nth time and as result, placing test career in extreme doubt. 2 Mitch Johnson to bowl so many "unplayable balls" by virtue that he will be all over the place in yet another "Insipid" waste of the new ball. 3 Nathan "I don't spin the ball at all" to be "Belted" out of the attack and therefore playing his last test for Australia, Fawad Ahmed "Come on down! 4 Iron Gloves Haddin to have a stinker with bat and gloves therefore leaving test career in jeopardy again. 5 Clarke to captain poorly and have even more critics than before. 6 Rhino Harris to bowl himself into stress fracture territory. That will suffice for the moment!

Ahem, Trengove will struggle to get a game with his lack of pace! Really struggling to find a position for him at this stage!

B: Garland Frawley Terlich HB: Clisby McDonald Grimes C: Watts N Jones Michie HF: Howe Hogan Kent F: Dawes Clark Dom Barry Foll: Jamar Viney Vince Int: Tyson M Jones Cross Sub: Pick 9 Mc Kenzie surplus to needs( How a stopper with limited skills got a three year deal is beyond me) Trengove backup only Dunn ditto Blease needs to show a lot more than a flash runs out of breath far too easily! Waiting in wings Fitzy, Gawn, and a few others! Take it or leave it

Meanwhile back onto the thread, Toumpas would want to work extremely hard on his deficiencies, have a solid pre- season and play very consistent footy to change my mind about where I reckon he is at. Not a walk up start in my team by any stretch of the imagination!

Well said Macca, let's hope the Footy God's smile fatefully our way for a change ? Eh?

And roll up roll up for some of the most insipid, poorest recruiting display by any professional? sporting club this side of the universe! Shheeeit how can we be so bad OR IS IT GOOD at A) Picking duds B) Failing to develop on almost any player on our list! Cale Morton sheesh another great great pick up And so I do not care for the party line '"He was rated by other recruiters" bultish Others may have rated him but, Fact is we picked him at 4 And don't get me started on Gysberts! When will this miserable recruiting and non player development end? Has someone put an ancient curse/spell on us that just cannot be broken?

One of the few decent football decisions we got right! Magner far too slow for AFL and with limited Skills! Who will forget the embarrassing attempt to kick a set shot from 25-30 meters out which failed to make the distance!? Cards marked not long after! Good VFL/Country footballer but nothing else!

Yep agree with most of this. Was somewhat cruelled by injuries both at Melbourne and of late Norwood ( ACL) Still, he played 25 games for 35 Goals as records show, which was a handy return for one so maligned on this forum.

Mark Harvey anyone, very badly done by at Freo, like his passionate responses and apparently very very good with player management?!

Nope, knee issues .. "Caveat Emptor"

BIG PASS ISSUES!

Blease doesn't only lack a tank, but needs a liberal dose of something else! So many times he goes down and rather than perservere tends to take the easy option, this especially if playing poorly!

Could it be that we snare Del Santo out of Kangaroos clutches or even Montagna???? Do it in a heartbeat!

I would seriously entertain offering Carlton pick 2 for Mitch Robinson.. Would anyone else consider this a viable option?? I like his grunt, ability to kick a goal and most of all his mongrel!

Not unhappy at all !!Sylvia has escaped scrutiny for poor perfomances for far too long. He is a cultural attaché to the archtype inconsistent performer that we should be quite happy to see go. Happy to get a pick of some description for him. Move on I say!

Why?? Don't you like "Robust" insightful threads? Ok I'll tell you the point, as so often in previous years, our most palpable need was again overlooked! WE NEEDED STRONG BODIED MIDS!! Question, what good is an outside mid when the inside mids can't get the agate? Get It?

Some Wines mature exceedingly well and quickly! Just like the "Ollie" variety! Particularly in cut and trust "Finals" Pressure! Named in BEST, 2 Crunch goals, An irresistable package! Hnmmmm, not a bad player!

BEZZE MY FRIEND LUURVE THE WAY YOU THINK! CHEERS "FENCE"