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Gawd I'm over this thread ,,, But I can't help myself! I was one very vigorous poster well and truly wanting Wines Over Toumpas. I don't care what 8 or 9 Recruiters said, I had seen enough of Wines to know he was the inside Grunt Warhorse and that we needed, so much more than an outside finisher in Toumpas Not that my opinion matters a Whit with many around here but now here is the stark reality. Double Blow for MFC We didn't get Wines and Toumpas has left after 3 lamentable Seasons. You can say what you like about who we picked up after Yadda Yadda but the reality is we got it so badly wrong and within that we really lost out on the Value that Wines would most certainly provided and doubly so The Value Toumpas never gave us! Given our history of dreadful draft picks we really couldn't afford to get that one so wrong IMV

I've said my piece on this, time to move on!

The One thing I noticed startingly was his turn of speed with the ball through heavy traffic! My esteemed Colleague Dazzle man also noticed this! In many of my vids of "Sir Robert" one thing stood as stark reminder of class and that was the ability to see peripherally those around you and decide in a blink of an eye which way to weave to esape heavy scrutiny from opposition! Probably why Rob lasted so long in the more brutal era's with not too much body damage! Oliver has I believe, the same 'Uncanny Time" and if he matures as I expect him to will become One of the "Darlings" of the MFC young brigade! Bring it on Son!!

Clayton Oliver will make Jimmy Toumpas look like a z rated extra in some nondescpipt off world sports ad! There... glad I've got that of my chest!

Delidio and Cotchin were dreadful in last years finals! As leaders they should be seething with their inept displays I could never in my wildest dreams imagine Chunky Jones playing so poorly in a final! Give me the goer anyday in a final! Is Jones that different to Todd Viney, who was superb in our finals campaigns Deledio and Cotchin ?? Meh.. If you cant produce in cut throat finals boys, go play tiddlywinks with grandma around the corner!

Crikey Dazzle Man I find myself agreeing with you again! Must find those angry pills again......... Not! Go Dees!

Hnmm Ok, Can see where your coming from and in retrospect maybe correct re Half as good would be a fail! I retract this comment. However chunky would get a game in most if not any other team and so as a benchmark if Oliver is as good I'll take it! Better is obviously a huge bonus! But remember Oliver has been selected as our "Late lament" version of Ollie Wines and we all know how well the guy we selected went! So as stated as good as Jones is good and if Better, will be a huge bonus IMV.

Nathan Jones would be the first player picked IMV and rightly so! Why this thread was sabbotaged beats me. I agree with Dazzle Man the thread is about Clayton Oliver and if he turns out to be half as good as chunky I will be reasonably pleased. As good or better, I will be rubbing my hands with Glee!

Take 2 OLIVER & WEIDEMAN AFTER SOLID PRE SEASONS ( SEE ATTACHMENT) MFC MUSCLE.doc

Seems like a nice Fellow, but he reminded me far too much of Tom Scully Big sigh glad we picked Oliver!

Clayton Oliver will tear "Pretty boy Treloar" a new one!!!!!!

Ah, Make that back to back "Brick Shithouses" Dazzle man!! And whilst not wishing any halm to new Essendope player Darcy Parish, as we will see, pure grunt and aggresion at the footy will mean that in the contest our new boy, will mow over the scrawny Parish frame like a "Treelogger over a blade of grass!!

Ah sheeeeit.. I was thinking positively, till you brought this up!!

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW HE TESTED TODAY??

Sam Blease came from Eastern Rangers!! Highly credentiallled!! Give me a Graeme Yates Dandenong Stngray, anyday!! Not discounting the Weed, however!! Hips hnmm shades of Toumpas revisited! Just a little Cautious or as I have used in the past "Caveat Emptor"

Daisy Thomas ?? A most overated player, even pre Carltank! Thinks highly of himself I believe!!

Smoky!! Expect him to come on rapidly! Like the look of him already!

Reminds me of no one in particular and looks too small and light! Just my opinion! PASS!

Wouldn't offer him 40 Cents!!

Agree and besides he not what we need, another flaky outside mid! We already have one of those and he can't get a game!

Nar, my new pin up is Jane Bunn!

Love it!! Also lets throw the grandstand for a player who can come in a Captain Straight away! Hnmm Let me see who is out there who might entertain a move with the captaincy thrown in!??

Time to wield the axe Trade or Delist Fitzpatrick Terlich Grimes Toumpas Mc Kenzie Jamar ( to retire) Spencer M Jones If Trengove falters he is looking vulnerable. Thatl do for a start!

I have the solution..... Simple really! Swap Toumpas for Wines! Now is everybody HAPPY???

Would Love Chris Yarran!! Great mate of Jeff Garlett ! Just the player Roosy would love to have and mould!!