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Precedence with Cripps case says he should get off....Personally i think these type incidents deserve a week or 2. The tribunal will find this a tough case for round 1....They will really want to rub him out for "pure optics"....There is no way he should be suspended if we are to take Cripps case seriously. Seems to be all about the damage inflicted, regardless of intent. Play ON....by the AFL's dodgy interpretations and precedents! Rioli for West Coast also got away with a pretty ugly looking one i thought he would also get weeks for. Who knows when it comes to the tribunal....Get a good lawyer Kozzie!

Of all the Bulldog goals on the night i reckon Baker got the loudest cheer, was a good moment for him!

i watched their praccy match and was one of the thing that really surprised me...all 4 of their big blokes put extreme pressure on at ground level. Beveridge also reiterated at some stage that for their forward line to work all of them are going to need to put pressure on balls whether they are in the air, or on the ground. They actually looked really dynamic and dangerous i thought....i certainly won't be under rating their talls or the impact they can have. Going to be a really tough matchup for us!

Curious re Fritsch! He has not trained for like 3-4 weeks now? So many have him in the team....surely he is not remotely prepared for a hitout like this? CHandler i think has to stay within the team....He kicked 1.3 and had hands in several others. He had a better game then Tmac/BB imo and does not deserve to get dropped for narrowly missing a few shots.

You don't think he has a huge role to play? I would say the head coach actually has more influence on success/failure than the talent of any list. If it were up to the players for selection and gameplan they would all just pick themselves....the coach has a fair influence on the way a club performs, in fact he is the single biggest driving factor when it comes to success or failure. Is he going to be rigid or flexible, who knows!!!? Not sure this is in the modern myths of football category just simply because you don't agree with it!

No worries at all WCW! I should have not posted before my morning coffee either haha. I love our team and think they can only get better. But to get to truly great levels i believe Simon will have to release the shackles and let them play with some sort of freedom. Maybe it is just me being weird..... Can defend the players until the end of time, just don't feel the same way about a head coach who was gifted a pretty amazing list. Has Yze/Richardson/Choco possibly the best assistant coaches with senior experience around him. Will be forever thankful for that Premiership and Goodwin's role in helping us achieve it! Really just hope he keeps evolving as a coach...we have the talent within our list to win more Premierships and really should....Our future success will depend on how flexible Simon is when it comes down to it.

We beat Brisbane so easily during the year....Let's risk it in a do or die final with quarter of our best players under massive injury clouds. We are sooooo much better than Brisbane. We got their measure~! Dumb coaching, dumb for players to put their hands up to play when under done. I still question whether Goodwin is the right guy.....Most coaches in the AFL would do great with our list. Seems way too predictable and uninspiring in a number of areas.....Team selection/ team flexibility/game plan/non use of super sub. As a team it looked like it was a grind to play and there seemed to be very little flair after the first five games of the season or so. We tried to win every game in the same or similar fashion. Hopefully we allow a bit more creative flair this year! I fear if we continue to play a dour style we will start off the season great but fade as the season goes on . It looks boring to play our style, it is often boring to watch.....We got so many players with x factor, allow them to use it!

It seems like Garry tried to get back on topic. Then the caller was cut from the air. Having lived in Australia my whole life, i see Aussies as getting better/more aware with racism, but by no means is it stamped out, and likely to never be entirely. Ignorance is not an excuse these days. While we still have powerful people like McGuire who make casual "jokes" about king-kong, it is going to be a long drawn out battle to eradicate. Nobody is inherently born racist as far as i know. My own parents don't believe the stolen generation actually happened. Have had so many arguments over the years on the subject, and they are far from ignorant people. They seem to have a train of thought that acceptance on the matter implies they were condoning it in some way. When Kevin Rudd said his sorry speech, i applauded it. Again though, the folks thought it was just a grab for money down the track, and they were not the guilty ones again, so they had nothing to be sorry for. Trying to educate people who are late into their life lives is almost impossible....But we do stand a chance with future generations of being much less toxic or accepting when it comes to all things racist. Acceptance seems to be a term thrown around a lot these days...We all need to get better at it, regardless of colour/race/religion/sexuality. The world will become a better place the more we stamp it out.

Looks a little like Brayshaw to me!

https://www.afl.com.au/news/870870/son-of-port-adelaide-great-peter-burgoyne-trent-vafa-star-kye-turner-in-bid-to-earn-melbourne-demons-spot Thanks for the great reports on training guys, appreciated!

Don't get me wrong, i appreciate all he did in our Premiership season. Last season though he seemed to have very little impact....in fact he went backwards imo. Personally i rated some of the things he did on the field as exciting, but his consistency may be years away, in fact it may never come. Is he a ruck/a forward/a midfielder? I would say he falls way below expectations on any of those roles currently. As for being childish with the mum insults, it was said tongue in cheek...i could care less what happens to Luke or his mum now he is not one of ours. Just making a prediction that he won't live up to Freo's expectations. He is getting paid like an elite player now, with this comes much greater responsibility....Not sure he is ready for all that entails. Fremantle supporters will expect great things from him on a weekly basis. Apart from being a great athlete i don't think he has the skills/craft to be an elite player wherever placed on the field. Contributing will not be enough given his pay packet If i actually posted any of what you quoted it would have been from 2021....2022 he was super disappointing...His contract discussion was a constant distraction, his form tapered off, by end of year i thought he barely warranted a place in the seniors. After reading 315 pages on him, rightly or wrongly i am entitled to an opinion on him. I do actually watch every match and have an idea on his actual strengths and weaknesses.

Luke i predict will not live up to Freo's expectations at all this year. He will have some good moments, but will frustrate the coach/supporters/players by chasing the ball around the park. He is not going to be a superstar of the competition, will just be happy just chasing that ball. He often plays like a suburban footballer who shows little respect to positioning or his craft. Will be a massive bust for Freo, they will expect big things from him given his pricetag, i think he will falter under the expectation. By end of season i expect he will be under immense pressure. His mum will then tell him none of that matters...as long as he is a good person.

Bags of 9, 4, 8, 24, 3, 5. That is really impressive! Be exciting one to watch. Just a hunch watching the highlights.... he will be playing senior footy this year. Casey games we are going to have lot of players to track. We got a lot of talent developing, exciting times!

Yup!

i wonder how much our back line gets paid compared to the forwards? Seems we disproportionately have most of our talent in the backline....We also got better backups for our backline too. Something has to give eventually. Petty forward is a risk we can afford to take. He is a better mark than David Neitz imo, who exceled both back and forward. Given the chance he will kill it as a forward, has the required mongrel in him to succeed.

Probably knew some of our players were below their best. Could guarantee they had seen the blueprint to beating us multiple times. Ramp up the pressure in the 2nd half and they will fold...Just stay within touch in 1st half. Tactically we try to hold onto games rather than keep scoring. I don't think we pay any respect to the opp's game plan. We don't make changes during games. A lot of our players look like deers in headlights when the pressure is really ramped up. We have little creativity in our game plan....way too predictable to play against. If we are to contend next season, a better run with injuries would help, but unless we are to address some of the flaws mentioned here...i predict we will go backwards a fair way.

Agreed. I think the main difference was Charlie getting up the ground and winning the foot races back to goal. He tactically played a much smarter game after Hibberd getting the honors in those H & A games. So many were below their best that day...too many injured/beaten up/out of form players. If we are to make changes, i hope selection integrity is at the top of the tree in 2022. More players with exposed form to pick from. When they are picked, they are ready to go. No bringing in underdone players, or rushing in a Salem for example, over a Bowey who was one of our best then dropped.

Cameron was one who did damage getting up the ground and running back towards goal. He hurt us on a day we lost by how much? I should have said Hibbo could not get near him :P I stand by comment he got torched. IIRC Hibberd had very little impact....less than Cameron for sure that day.

Yeah, i also did not think he was purely responsible for all of his goals. Actually, at the time i thought Demonland over-reacted and jumped on him pretty hard over that performance. I think few players in the league could have stopped him that day, was electric. On his day can make the best defenders look silly.

I believe that was another game where Charlie kicked 5 on him during the regular season in 2021. Not 100% on this though! On that day i don't think anyone would have stopped him, was sublime.

Hibbo got torched in our last final vs Cameron. Another year older i doubt he will be able to curtail any/many of the small dangerous forwards. Rivers or Smith would be my pick.

Great for both these guys to get contracts....I hope neither play much senior football next year though as neither are the future. If Goodwin is picking Melksham over Van Rooyen, Turner over Hibberd, we are majorly screwing over developing our list. Goodwin is almost best mates with Melksham and seems to pick him at every opportunity. Please don't do it again Simon, let them help develop some of our younger talent. No favorites!

FB: Lever, May, Rivers HB: Salem, Turner, Brayshaw C: Hunter, Oliver, Langdon HF: Chandler, Van Rooyen, ANB FF: Pickett, Petty, Fritsch FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Petracca INT: Grundy, Jordon, Bowey, Harmes E: Sparrow, Spargo, Brown, McDonald, Hibberd The type of team we would not realistically see round One....Hopefully at some stage during the year! It "should" be a new year and all spots up for grabs. I expect Goodwin will stick with some of his faves, but will be forced into changes through some very ordinary performances from my listed emergencies. There has to genuine pressure on all players to perform, i think after last year we will not wait so long "hoping" player X gains form. Injured or beaten up players to be rested. Changes to winning sides is allowed!

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Along with Gawn is easily our best contested mark. Always competes, whether that be in the air, or on the ground. With our current gamestyle of bombing to the pocket, we literally have nobody that can take a contested mark. If he is not trained as a forward next year i would be suprised....we have plenty of defenders that can play a backline role.. I said in post somewhere on this forum he reminded me very much of a Naughton type (well b4 Garry Lyon). We need talent/fierce competitors all over the ground, but moreso in our front half. I also think our small forward will dine out, if they are front and square with him contesting. Would make our whole forward line walk taller.