Roost it far

I'm expecting him to find form and finish the year strongly. Development of emerging talent isn't always linear. We've largely been terrible as a team this year, that won't have helped him. He's already shown he has talent over the last 2 years, you don't lose it. What you lose is confidence, that comes and goes. Personally I think the whole club is low on confidence. I think Goodwin, Richardson and several coaches probably need to go at years end. It feels like the time for a change is upon us. That's not a bad thing as long as we make the right decisions on any replacements. Apparently Bartel is coming so I guess he replaces Richardson. That and a few assistants might be all the change we need, time will tell.

The kid's a jet who's ego needs checking. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Seriously though, how does Geelong pay for him in the cap?

#dannyz

We’d take him in a heartbeat

Per Cal Twomey, we’re in the race

We’re a chance. Our fitness is the biggest concern for mine

They lack any “feel” for the game, what’s ok and what’s not, the supporters or the players. Time for change. I reckon the umpires just got shafted.

I could ask the same of you in 23

The Blues game was the most undisciplined game we'd played in years. we had them on toast but the damage was done losing to Collingwood. 23 will always hurt.

You're not completely wrong. I'd say we have to find out if Laurie, Brown and Sestan are AFL standard this year. Brown can probably wait until next year, I think he currently sits behind Chandler, Spargo and Pickett. If he was banging the door down we could probably make room. Do we try him back? I don't think he has the size or the disposal for it and it looks like the match committee agree. Laurie is clearly banging the door down and I'd say he's close to yet another chance. Sestan I can't judge because of the games I've watched I just don't see the pressing need for him to play AFL, I of course hope to be wrong. None of them replace Fritsch or Chandler. Spargo draws the most criticism. I'm a fan and don't see anyone below him taking his spot atm.

Part of the trouble is the state of the VFL competition. The AFL really need to sort it. Get it back to the same 18 teams who play AFL and match the draw. I agree on Tholstrup though, I’m not seeing but he’s got time and his preseason lay off with injury didn’t help.

Name one other club who’s won a Premiership and then changed its game plan? It’s a nonsense to suggest we should have changed our approach. We’d just won 3 finals by large amounts. The fact is our list, as with most teams, didn’t bat deep and when injuries came in 22 and 23 we dropped off marginally. Still finished top 4 with our terrible Premiership winning game plan but didn’t have the cattle to go all the way. Injuries aren’t an excuse they’re a reason.

The Suns first quarter was as good a football as I’ve seen this year

Is Mac Andrews He’s done absolutely nothing tonight except leak a few goals which exactly the same as when I last watched him

Is Mac Andrews really any good? I’ve watched 6 or so of his games and see nothing amazing.

How much would you like Humphrey in the red and blue!

That’s a great argument you got there Champ.

I haven’t said we don’t have faults but if you won’t recognise the impact of injuries to a team that never had great depth then it’s easy to blame everything else. The coach, the game plan, the boot studder. On KB in 23 we easily accounted for Collingwood as we were better than they were. We had them on toast in that final and you can’t tell me that if Gus, Petty and Melksham were playing we wouldn’t have more than likely beaten them and their wizz bang game plan. It ain’t rose coloured glasses it’s fact.

Whilst I certainly question selection and management over the journey Jefferson needs to show some toughness. We all know it, the club knows it, worst of all he knows it. It’s shows through so clearly

Quite possibly

Lever, Viney, Petracca, maybe Oliver, Langdon all have 2-5 years left, Max 1-2 more plus we continue to add new recruits to go with Lindsay, Langford, Windsor, Bowey, Turner, JVR, Petty, Pickett, Kolt. We’re not far off

Life big fella, just sucking it in!