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Stengle 53 goals (25 games) Neal-Bullen 9 goals (23 games)

Imagine the difference of having Stengle and Close this year instead of ANB and Spargo.

My recollection is based on events like the one below and numerous others like it. Note the date, 22nd/24th of JANUARY , 4 MONTHS after the GF. Were you aware of these events ?

1. My recollection differs, I believe it was a group of six or so players at a time with Goodwin included sometimes. 2. Perhaps try reading what I said more carefully, ie “done and dusted” by November (((( for the players/coaches at least )))) The celebrations could have continued without them. The cup being centre of attention. 3. Whilst the Premiership was coveted even more than normal, considering 57 years of disappointment for long suffering fans, myself included, I don’t recall other premiership clubs going to the same public extent of celebration. 3. If it had any affect on the outcome of 2022 [ mindset ] ( I believe it may have ) I’m quite sure that most fans would have happily forgiven the players for cutting short their celebrations/ commercial venture ( I suspect ) instead of now having the strong sense of disappointment and feeling the club under achieved this year. PS . Everyone has , and is , entitled to their opinion. In the infrequent / minimal number of posts I’ve submitted, I don’t believe I’ve told someone their opinion was a “ridiculous call”. I believe I have been respectful of others , and will continue to do so, you being the exception however. PS. Don’t bother ‘face palming’, if you have something to say it.

Late last year I was concerned about the apparent ‘never ending’ Premiership celebratory caravan that toured the State. Recollect it went into the new year (?) Should been done and dusted by the start of November (for the players/coaches at least)

Would love Tomlinson for Buku Khamis, 1000/1 of it happening though.

Nice idea, worth a try,, we certainly need more run off half back.

Each to their own. For mine, his best moments this year were in the last minutes against Carlton, winning the ball near the centre, using his pace and getting it in deep. His worst moments were getting caught out in a one in one marking contest as the last defender as well as losing his man at a stoppage near goal.

Play him on the opposite Wing to Langdon. Use his speed to our best advantage. Too shaky in one on ones in defence.

Ruck Rover Starting 4 Gawn , JACKSON , Oliver , Petracca

The old “robbing Peter to pay Paul” scenario. Maybe Turner ( has scope) might only cover, say 75% of Petty down back, but Petty might just be a 100% improvement on the mess that has been the 2022 forward line. Overall, that would be a significant win. At least try Petty as a swing man type, to me he has a similar style to one of the best in Terry Daniher. Develop Petty and Van Rooyen as our primary key forwards next year and we might just be able to lock down those positions for the next 8 years.

I really like Spargo’s ball use and creativity. What I don’t like is you don’t see it often enough. I also don’t like that he can’t crumb a goal, can barely kick 45 and is a dodgy shot for goal.

Can’t disagree with any of the above. I’d like to add, - VINEY should 1. not start in the centre square 2. IMO should not be considered in the best 5 midfielders we have ( too many limitations ) Therefore we need to bring in 2 quality midfielders. .3. Perhaps he is best used as a negating midfielder. - HUNT is not a defender, play him in a more attacking role, either on a wing or half forward, if not, move him on. PETTY, whilst he has the capacity to be in the best 3 tall defenders in the game, I think he best used by us as a forward, therefore 2023, it’s Petty & VanRooyen key forwards. No room for B. Brown. Desperately needed, another quality small forward to combine with Pickett, neither Spargo nor Neal-Bullen do enough in this role. Not best 23 for 23. Shop SALEM around. GAWN looks worn out, maybe carrying injury or maybe he’s on the downward spiral, so getting Grundy might be the right call after all.

What about a separate Interchange or Sub bench for Rucks ?

Whilst I would much prefer our ‘World class’ training facility to be near the MCG it appears we have ‘missed the boat’. Time to go All In at Casey.

I’ll remind you. You ridiculed someone for their opinion ( omitting Neal-Bullen ) only to agree with that same opinion one week later.

I needed the clarification, although I see you still didn’t say , YES Neal -Bullen omitted. Furthermore, pleased to see you eventually came around to agree with my “stilted opinion” ( your words ) albeit one week and one loss too late.

NEAL-BULLEN Are you saying he should be dropped ?

Re :- your reply in Changes v Sydney thread Just wondering whether you’ve changed your mind about Neal-Bullen ?

Oliver Henry - Not a KPF - Dodgy kick - Inconsistent / goes missing - ATM can’t cement a place in Coll 1st - Was ordinary in VFL elim final last week No thanks.

To all Demonland “devotees” of NEAL-BULLEN, could you please advise the following, - Rate, out of 10, his Offensive output, ie disposals, goals, assists. - Rate where he would sit ( 1-22) on form , in the 22 for this season. - In nearly 150 games, how many times would he have been in the best 11/ best 50%. - Other than “trying hard”, ( something every player should be doing, and more) what is his real worth to the team ?

I’ve “bagged” plenty over the years without using any expletives or even at times, raising my voice. Bagging, slagging AKA criticising. Each to their own.

I beg to differ. In my world of 6 + decades they have always been the same thing. Ps. At a game, have you ever expressed disapproval of an umpire’s decision ?

If required, Turner is already a more than adequate replacement for Lever.